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greenbrucelee

greenbrucelee

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I sent an online message to overclokers regarding the bundle where you gets the asus maximus x hero a binned 8700k and the water cooler asking if I could change the cooler to a noctua NH-D15 and I got the response saying this cant be offered due to the high temps the cpu puts out.

Surely the NH-D15 should be able to manage this as good as the water cooler.

Am I wrong or what?
 
greenbrucelee said:
I sent an online message to overclokers regarding the bundle where you gets the asus maximus x hero a binned 8700k and the water cooler asking if I could change the cooler to a noctua NH-D15 and I got the response saying this cant be offered due to the high temps the cpu puts out.

Surely the NH-D15 should be able to manage this as good as the water cooler.

Am I wrong or what?
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Depends what it is binned for. Over 5GHz the 8700k does get mighty hot so they probably want to cover their own behinds and make sure they have over specced.
 
OCUK afaik only sold the 8700k bundles with AIO coolers that they have tested themselves and happy with performance.
 
Binned for 5ghz can mean 1.42V. My chip I bought at release will only do 5ghz at 1.42v this is a binned chip from ocuk and I have to use 4.8ghz due to voltage and heat. When I asked them via CS they said that 1.42v was fine so w/e.
 
maybe you got a bad chip. I have seen some videos on pootube with the NHD-15s and a delid 8700k hitting 5GHz. I may buy the component seperate if overclockers wont do it in the bundle. I dont want AIO cooling because its ****.
 
greenbrucelee said:
maybe you got a bad chip. I have seen some videos on pootube with the NHD-15s and a delid 8700k hitting 5GHz. I may buy the component seperate if overclockers wont do it in the bundle. I dont want AIO cooling because its ****.
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I know I have a bad chip am just warning you. These binned chips are 5 ghz and not 5.1 for a reason ;P
 
well I just had a chat with overclockers on line chat and the guy I spoke to reckons the NH-D15 would be ok to use. I also asked about warranty and overclockers give a one year warranty. I might aswell go for it
 
greenbrucelee said:
I sent an online message to overclokers regarding the bundle where you gets the asus maximus x hero a binned 8700k and the water cooler asking if I could change the cooler to a noctua NH-D15 and I got the response saying this cant be offered due to the high temps the cpu puts out.

Surely the NH-D15 should be able to manage this as good as the water cooler.

Am I wrong or what?
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Keep in mind 'bundle' prices are often based on the specific components in it, so changing components means changes in prices. Also, changing from a loop to air requires good case airflow so cooler receives air at or near room temp. With a loop radiator using intake air there is always air at room temp into it.
 
doyll said:
Keep in mind 'bundle' prices are often based on the specific components in it, so changing components means changes in prices. Also, changing from a loop to air requires good case airflow so cooler receives air at or near room temp. With a loop radiator using intake air there is always air at room temp into it.
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I will be using a Fractle Define Design R6 case. I think the air flow should be ok.
 
greenbrucelee said:
I will be using a Fractle Define Design R6 case. I think the air flow should be ok.
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Define R6 is a good case, but the included Dynamic Dynamic X2 GP-14 are not much good at all. At full speed (1000rpm) the only make 0.61mm H2O pressure and that is just barely enough to overcome venting grill and filter resistance. Idled down they often cannot keep things cool and if system has 140mm fan on CPU cooler and 2-3x 92mm fans on GPU the GP-14s' can't supply needed cool air. Good news is you can get a 2-pack of PH-F140MP fans for £16.26 right now. Use them as front intakes .. buy 2 packs and use another as bottom intake and remove all PCIe back slot covers to dramatically increase rear vent area and airflow around GPU.
Raise case with some 15-25mm spacers under the feet for much better airflow to bottom intakes (PSU & fan) and lower noise too. Or make an open center castor base. I used to make and sell them so could give you a quick tutorial of how to make one.
Use motherboard PWM fan headers to control case fan speed so they cycle with CPU and GPU fans and things are very quiet unless system is working extremely hard. ;)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html
 
doyll said:
Define R6 is a good case, but the included Dynamic Dynamic X2 GP-14 are not much good at all. At full speed (1000rpm) the only make 0.61mm H2O pressure and that is just barely enough to overcome venting grill and filter resistance. Idled down they often cannot keep things cool and if system has 140mm fan on CPU cooler and 2-3x 92mm fans on GPU the GP-14s' can't supply needed cool air. Good news is you can get a 2-pack of PH-F140MP fans for £16.26 right now. Use them as front intakes .. buy 2 packs and use another as bottom intake and remove all PCIe back slot covers to dramatically increase rear vent area and airflow around GPU.
Raise case with some 15-25mm spacers under the feet for much better airflow to bottom intakes (PSU & fan) and lower noise too. Or make an open center castor base. I used to make and sell them so could give you a quick tutorial of how to make one.
Use motherboard PWM fan headers to control case fan speed so they cycle with CPU and GPU fans and things are very quiet unless system is working extremely hard. ;)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html
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what if I went for the Meshify C or teh corsiar 750D airflow edition?

I'm not bothered about RGB and all the fancy ******** that you dont really need

I have a stand for my current case (corsair 600T) which raises the case about 5 or 6 inches off the carpet.

Are the fractle cases meant for AIO cooling then?

what would you recommend should I just go AIO or if you could suggest a case
 
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greenbrucelee said:
what if I went for the Meshify C or teh corsiar 750D airflow edition?

I'm not bothered about RGB and all the fancy ******** that you dont really need

I have a stand for my current case (corsair 600T) which raises the case about 5 or 6 inches off the carpet.

Are the fractle cases meant for AIO cooling then?

what would you recommend should I just go AIO or if you could suggest a case
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Meshify would need fan replacement.

Corsair 600T is not as well built.

Fractal cases work well with air or AIO / CLC. Why are you asking? Are you planning on running a CLC? Honestly for most users a good air cooled system is a better option. They cost less, last much longer, make less noise. The only coolng component that can go bad is the fans. With liquid cooling the most likely thing to go bad is the pump, and if the pump goes there is no cooling so no system to use until pump is replaced .. and if it's a CLC the entire CLC has to be replaced .. way more expensive then replacing just a pump. But if it air cooled and a fan goes bad system still works at low load. Worst case is use any fan held on with rubber bands until suitable replacement is in hand .. air cooled is not as expensive to buy, lasts way longer, fan replacement is low cost, etc. Sure water cooling is the 'cool' way to go, but in reality most people using water would be just as 'cool' with a nice air cooled system costing much less, especially if it's custom loop. Custom loops are more of a hobby then a necessity. They are customizing a car, just not quite as expensive. ;)

I don't call all AIOs 'AIO' because while all CLCs are AIOs, not all AIOs are CLCs .. and there is a huge difference between AIOs that are not CLCs and those that are CLCs. AIOs that are not CLC are much better quality, all have threaded fittings so hoses can be made to length or components replaced if needed, almost all have copper radiators, have pumps that flow more than CLCs and have a fill port to service coolant. They are pre-assembled and filled lower end component kits. CLCs are put together to never be opened up, have aluminum radiators, low flowrate pumps, etc. To date I have never tested/used a CLC that I kept in a system for longer than it took to test it. but I have a be quiet! Silent Loop 280mm (AIO not CLC) in one of my systems for couple of years now because its very quiet and decent quality.
 
doyll said:
Meshify would need fan replacement.

Corsair 600T is not as well built.

Fractal cases work well with air or AIO / CLC. Why are you asking? Are you planning on running a CLC? Honestly for most users a good air cooled system is a better option. They cost less, last much longer, make less noise. The only coolng component that can go bad is the fans. With liquid cooling the most likely thing to go bad is the pump, and if the pump goes there is no cooling so no system to use until pump is replaced .. and if it's a CLC the entire CLC has to be replaced .. way more expensive then replacing just a pump. But if it air cooled and a fan goes bad system still works at low load. Worst case is use any fan held on with rubber bands until suitable replacement is in hand .. air cooled is not as expensive to buy, lasts way longer, fan replacement is low cost, etc. Sure water cooling is the 'cool' way to go, but in reality most people using water would be just as 'cool' with a nice air cooled system costing much less, especially if it's custom loop. Custom loops are more of a hobby then a necessity. They are customizing a car, just not quite as expensive. ;)

I don't call all AIOs 'AIO' because while all CLCs are AIOs, not all AIOs are CLCs .. and there is a huge difference between AIOs that are not CLCs and those that are CLCs. AIOs that are not CLC are much better quality, all have threaded fittings so hoses can be made to length or components replaced if needed, almost all have copper radiators, have pumps that flow more than CLCs and have a fill port to service coolant. They are pre-assembled and filled lower end component kits. CLCs are put together to never be opened up, have aluminum radiators, low flowrate pumps, etc. To date I have never tested/used a CLC that I kept in a system for longer than it took to test it. but I have a be quiet! Silent Loop 280mm (AIO not CLC) in one of my systems for couple of years now because its very quiet and decent quality.
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so if I go for NH-D15 what case would you suggest or would you suggest any of the ones I mentioned and buy fans for them?
 
greenbrucelee said:
so if I go for NH-D15 what case would you suggest or would you suggest any of the ones I mentioned and buy fans for them?
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Most cases need more or different fans.

I haven't used newer Fractal Design Define, but am still using my old Define R2 heavily modificed for 140mm fans .. still looks the same on outside. They are good cases. I like the little things like bottom filter slides out the front so all bottom vent filter including PSU can be pulled and cleaned without moving case. :D Define R5 is very similar to R6 with pricing starting at £99.95. If it was me I would probably get Define R5 and of course some PH-F140MP fans for it.

I'm using some Phanteks cases, some Nanoxia, some Fractal Design, some Lian Li. I don't think I will ever use another Corsair and Nanaoxia are nto as nicely built as Phanteks and Fractal Design .. and Lian Li are too much money.

Phanteks Enthoo Luxe and Enthoo Pro are nice. They are same basic chassis with different front and top. The 200mm fan is no good so needs 2x PH-F140MPs to replace it. Bottom is 2x filters, but a super simple mod makes it a one piece filter sliding out the front. Their is an Enthoo Luxe TG *B-Grade* with 4x PH-F140MP like fans for £109.99. That is what I would get right now if I was buying. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-gr...xe-glass-midi-tower-case-black-bg-04h-pt.html
 
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