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I sent an online message to overclokers regarding the bundle where you gets the asus maximus x hero a binned 8700k and the water cooler asking if I could change the cooler to a noctua NH-D15 and I got the response saying this cant be offered due to the high temps the cpu puts out.

Surely the NH-D15 should be able to manage this as good as the water cooler.

Am I wrong or what?
 
maybe you got a bad chip. I have seen some videos on pootube with the NHD-15s and a delid 8700k hitting 5GHz. I may buy the component seperate if overclockers wont do it in the bundle. I dont want AIO cooling because its ****.
 
well I just had a chat with overclockers on line chat and the guy I spoke to reckons the NH-D15 would be ok to use. I also asked about warranty and overclockers give a one year warranty. I might aswell go for it
 
Keep in mind 'bundle' prices are often based on the specific components in it, so changing components means changes in prices. Also, changing from a loop to air requires good case airflow so cooler receives air at or near room temp. With a loop radiator using intake air there is always air at room temp into it.

I will be using a Fractle Define Design R6 case. I think the air flow should be ok.
 
Define R6 is a good case, but the included Dynamic Dynamic X2 GP-14 are not much good at all. At full speed (1000rpm) the only make 0.61mm H2O pressure and that is just barely enough to overcome venting grill and filter resistance. Idled down they often cannot keep things cool and if system has 140mm fan on CPU cooler and 2-3x 92mm fans on GPU the GP-14s' can't supply needed cool air. Good news is you can get a 2-pack of PH-F140MP fans for £16.26 right now. Use them as front intakes .. buy 2 packs and use another as bottom intake and remove all PCIe back slot covers to dramatically increase rear vent area and airflow around GPU.
Raise case with some 15-25mm spacers under the feet for much better airflow to bottom intakes (PSU & fan) and lower noise too. Or make an open center castor base. I used to make and sell them so could give you a quick tutorial of how to make one.
Use motherboard PWM fan headers to control case fan speed so they cycle with CPU and GPU fans and things are very quiet unless system is working extremely hard. ;)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/two-...140mm-fan-radiator-performance-bu-003-pt.html

what if I went for the Meshify C or teh corsiar 750D airflow edition?

I'm not bothered about RGB and all the fancy ******** that you dont really need

I have a stand for my current case (corsair 600T) which raises the case about 5 or 6 inches off the carpet.

Are the fractle cases meant for AIO cooling then?

what would you recommend should I just go AIO or if you could suggest a case
 
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Meshify would need fan replacement.

Corsair 600T is not as well built.

Fractal cases work well with air or AIO / CLC. Why are you asking? Are you planning on running a CLC? Honestly for most users a good air cooled system is a better option. They cost less, last much longer, make less noise. The only coolng component that can go bad is the fans. With liquid cooling the most likely thing to go bad is the pump, and if the pump goes there is no cooling so no system to use until pump is replaced .. and if it's a CLC the entire CLC has to be replaced .. way more expensive then replacing just a pump. But if it air cooled and a fan goes bad system still works at low load. Worst case is use any fan held on with rubber bands until suitable replacement is in hand .. air cooled is not as expensive to buy, lasts way longer, fan replacement is low cost, etc. Sure water cooling is the 'cool' way to go, but in reality most people using water would be just as 'cool' with a nice air cooled system costing much less, especially if it's custom loop. Custom loops are more of a hobby then a necessity. They are customizing a car, just not quite as expensive. ;)

I don't call all AIOs 'AIO' because while all CLCs are AIOs, not all AIOs are CLCs .. and there is a huge difference between AIOs that are not CLCs and those that are CLCs. AIOs that are not CLC are much better quality, all have threaded fittings so hoses can be made to length or components replaced if needed, almost all have copper radiators, have pumps that flow more than CLCs and have a fill port to service coolant. They are pre-assembled and filled lower end component kits. CLCs are put together to never be opened up, have aluminum radiators, low flowrate pumps, etc. To date I have never tested/used a CLC that I kept in a system for longer than it took to test it. but I have a be quiet! Silent Loop 280mm (AIO not CLC) in one of my systems for couple of years now because its very quiet and decent quality.

so if I go for NH-D15 what case would you suggest or would you suggest any of the ones I mentioned and buy fans for them?
 
@doyll I think i will still go for the fractle r6 and use the fan setup you suggested earlier. But I was wondering how would the setup be if i used noctua fans instead the phantek ones? Or perhaps the chromax fans. As i would like to keep it quiet but will sacrifice for cooling if i have to. What do you think?
 
Depends on what model fan you choose. Some Noctua are good, some are not. Probably the best performance to noise fan right now is be quiet! Silent Wings 3.

NF-A14 is the the noctua ones I was thinking of.One silly question I had is, I have never had a case with a door on it before. Is it best to open the door when gaming or pushing the system or is the ventilation good enough?

And cheers for your help.
 
NF-A14 are good and quite expensive in black. be quiet! Silent Wings 3 are I think better and lower priced. Too bad we can't get TY-147A SQ. Thermalright T:Y& series are my go to fans when available.

There have been a few times I opened the door on front door cases but it's rarely needed with good fans. Last time I did it was last summer when super hot and doing a lot of encoding and with door open fans were not as loud. The only case I have with door that opens to allow less restricted airflow is my old Define R2 modified to 140mm fans. My Enthoo Luxe is just 2x front & 1x bottom intake w/ PH-F140SPs, later changed to TY-147A SQ fans. Enthoo Primo is SP fans. Enthoo Evolv ATX is MP fans. Enthoo Evolv mATX is MP fans Nanoxia is 120mm XP fans and Lian Li has GTs in it.

I might get the silent wings then should I get 4 120mm or 140?
 
'Go away kid, your drawing fans' Sorry, couldn't resist.

It takes 3x 120mm fans to give similar airflow as 2x 140mm fans .. and usually at slightly higher noise levels. I use 140mm fans whenever possible. Well, there are some cases that will take 3x 120mm or 2x 140mm fans that the 120mm mounting blocks 140mm fan airflow (not an uncommon problem), so if I'm not cutting out the 120mm mounts I will use 120mm fans.

There are so many variables involved here I can't say exactly what is best without locking down all the variables.

I will work it out but i will replace the two fronts and use the bottom fan mounts for intakes and see how it goes
 
What 2 140 front intakes?

What bottom intake?

Top exhaust is not a good thing 99.99999999% of the time. It pulls heated air up from GPU around CPU while pulling the cool air coming in the front up and out the top too.

The absolute positively very best way is front to back airflow with no side or top fans.

Have enough cool air enter case from front (and bottom if needed) to keep the front half of case all cool air with it pushing straight on back to back venting (this is why I say remove all PCIe back slot covers) and pushing the heated exhaust coming off of GPU and CPU on back and out of case.

So i will use the silent wings 3 140mm should I remove the top fan and just go front to back or use bottom intake too?
 
Just to make sure I've got it right, Define R6 case, 2x Silent Wings 3 .. which speed? I suggest high speed, maybe use a PWM splitter or hub with PSU power and just idle them down some. To me 1000rpm is hardly enough, just barely fast enough when everything is good .. but not fast enough in really hot weather while gaming and encoding some videos to watch on a trip .. especially if filters are a little dirty.

NH-D15

No PCIe slot covers.

What GPU are you planning to use?

What bottom fan? If front and bottom are all same fans you don't have to worry about front fans building more pressure than bottom one and stopping bottom from flowing air into case.

Are you going to raise case up on blocks or a castor base?

Get a good quality PSU .. not a place to cut corners and have it fail and take out motherboard, GPU, CPU etc all in one blow.
I will be using a 1080ti probably asus a seasonic 750w psu (might go 800w+)will use silent wings all round high speed pwm, no pci e covers, remove top fan, nh-d15
 
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