Yeah if I owned the house opposite they could come round and have some tea with me!
I agree with you but sadly the goodun's are the 1%! (Not exactly mathematically accurate but you get the idea)
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I agree with you but sadly the goodun's are the 1%! (Not exactly mathematically accurate but you get the idea)
That is mathematically accurate.
Because on a Friday or Saturday night the police just want people in a taxi and away home.
It's more of an officer safety issue than anything, they can go in to arrest one and in minutes the entire community will be out there in their faces.
I feel like if that happens police response should be "mow them all down with G36 and MP5", sadly many would be up in arms about that.
In which case arrest them all. Punish them all. Keep punishing them and then see if they keep doing it. I bet after a while they get tired of getting fined or jailed.
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Just after they put them up a second time some local guy came round with a pair of scissors and had them all down again.
This time instead of leaving them neatly on the floor he popped all the balloons and kicked all the flowers into a pile stamped them down before heading off..
i can see what will happen here..
The plod will stand by while the family turn up with more flowers.
then when the locals turn up to take them down plod will threaten to nick them for some obscure public order reason..
plod are useless when it comes to ''travelers'' always have been.
The issue with 'robustly' policing 'communities' like this is there is two fold
1) if the police are going to enter a travellers site in any situation thats likely to be confrontational they need to go en masse and I mean en mass complete with serious tactical and or firearms support. You also have to be ready to 'police' the fallout
2) there the usual large supply of useful idiots lining up to support these groups and their right to their 'alternative' lifestyles claiming that the bad stuff is all (or at least mostly) down to unjust racism expressed by there being such widely held negative sentiment against them
1) if the police are going to enter a travellers site in any situation thats likely to be confrontational they need to go en masse and I mean en mass complete with serious tactical and or firearms support. You also have to be ready to 'police' the fallout
2) there the usual large supply of useful idiots lining up to support these groups and their right to their 'alternative' lifestyles claiming that the bad stuff is all (or at least mostly) down to unjust racism expressed by there being such widely held negative sentiment against them
Apparently the floral 'tributes' have gone up for a third time. I wonder how long they'll stay there for?
Surely though the fence they're using is private property, and the owner of that fence is within their rights to remove anything attached to it if they choose to?
I also can't help wondering how many crimes the police could clear up if they were to fingerprint and DNA test the people who keep putting them there
Surely though the fence they're using is private property, and the owner of that fence is within their rights to remove anything attached to it if they choose to?
I also can't help wondering how many crimes the police could clear up if they were to fingerprint and DNA test the people who keep putting them there
My understanding is that this is a safety concern (for the police themselves) rather than a policy not to prosecute. Two police officers versus an entire site would be a virtual suicide mission.
They send the women for this sort of stuff, remember the Dale farm coverage, the men didn't want to appear on camera, presumably worried they'd be recognised by some victims.
Then again at least one woman was involved in a distraction burglary the now dead burglar was previously wanted for.
They are a protected minority group which the EU protects. Apparently it's not just the UK police that can't touch them; other EU countries have the same problem.
Minority group + extremely violent = pretty much above the law.
Just look at the ... ahem ... "middle-eastern" child rapists that the police knew about but didn't want to go after for fear of being called "racists".
Except, you know, when that's exactly what they are doing, and even admit that they're doing, to members of the public who have asked them for help (normally to recover their stuff).
Sod the EU and its stupid protection for these ass clowns. I'd send in the army. They want to get violent? Shoot them. Otherwise round them up and detain them. Sod their human rights. We all know that 99% of their stuff and 99% of their income will be stolen/obtained by fraud/menaces. I have as much sympathy for their human rights as the ISIS "Beatles" who are now crying about their treatment and lack of a fair trial. Boo hoo hoo, my heart bleeds.
They don't own anything
Their caravans are all stolen, and they don't live in houses except when the council provide them free of charge (because they're brazen enough to put themselves on a waiting list for free housing whilst they rob the area blind).But yes, the Guardian and its readership will cry themselves to sleep if we actually stood up for law and order and gave these idiots a dose of the own medicine. "Somebody think of the children/human rights! Society has failed them! They would be fine upstanding scientists, lawyers and priests if we weren't all so RACIST against them!"
**** the Guardian and all who sail in her.
I get that re: the pursuit thing but things like the case of a caravan being stolen and turning up on site (has happened soon after being stolen too not just the case where some family has already moved into it and the police cite "Human rights innit".
Also the group that were turning up in my parents borough and continually moved on cost the council a fortune... a police operation there would have been much appreciated by the residents instead of standing by and watching them each time.
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When they rocked up around here they left behind what can only be described as a mountain of **** which cost the council thousands to clear away. Not only was it piles and piles of litter, but It included dead dogs and a building that they'd used as a toilet. The kicker was that this happened the very week that an elderly woman was hauled before the courts and fined for the heinous of crime throwing some bread to birds and another person fined because the some yobs had kicked their wheely bin over and scattered the rubbish across the street. Yet, once again, the ****** get away with it because the police and the council are too scared to do anything.
Except in very very very few instances, I do not think that leaving flowers and teddy bears in a public space should be allowed. Maybe for 24 hours maximum. If you knew the person well, you can express your sympathies to their family, but this faux "me too" grief, the "I am with you mate" sort of public expression and setting up shrines to their memory is so false and fake.
It's only purpose in this case can be to annoy other people and it is a veiled threat.
It's only purpose in this case can be to annoy other people and it is a veiled threat.
It's how we celebrate diversity and multiculturalism in this country, these days.
Instead of integrating people and having one set of rules for all (one society), we now just let minorities do whatever the hell they like, and scream "racist" at anyone who questions this approach.
They want to live in their own communities, be unable to speak English, and burn the odd UK flag? Great! We welcome the diversity they bring.
Want to rock up uninvited on someone else's land, trash the place, and steal everything in sight? As long as you aren't white-British, that's fine! We love the diversity and enrichment.
It's both funny and sickening. The inevitable fight back will be bloody and horrific, but this is the course our political classes have chosen for us all.
They’re absolutely disgusting individuals. The guy that took down the “shrine” deserves a medal (turns out he also stabbed a scumbag in his house a few years ago).
It’s a sad state of affairs that things have come to this point where such flagrant general anti-social behaviour and worse, outright menacing of local communities is seemingly tolerated by those in charge and even worse when the public complain about it they are then accused of being intolerant (or worse) of a protected “ethnic minority” group.
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Probably echoing what some have said and offending others; but the burglar was a criminal, plain and simple.
As soon as he trespassed on someone else's property, threatened the retired family with a weapon as well as their their lives, he effectively lost all his own human rights and shouldn't have any, but we live in a world where we have to give everyone chances over and over again don't we, even if they do wrong, and I suppose rehabilitation does work in some cases...but I don't know.
The criminal doesn't deserve a shrine and I'm frankly disgusted that they're using the victims property in such a way, he turned his back on his family and his friends as soon as he did the things he did and his family/friends should be ashamed of him, not celebrating his life or seeking revenge for his murder (which was in self defence).
As soon as he trespassed on someone else's property, threatened the retired family with a weapon as well as their their lives, he effectively lost all his own human rights and shouldn't have any, but we live in a world where we have to give everyone chances over and over again don't we, even if they do wrong, and I suppose rehabilitation does work in some cases...but I don't know.
The criminal doesn't deserve a shrine and I'm frankly disgusted that they're using the victims property in such a way, he turned his back on his family and his friends as soon as he did the things he did and his family/friends should be ashamed of him, not celebrating his life or seeking revenge for his murder (which was in self defence).