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GPU prices go boom

LeMson said:
Hunt seems to need a lot of optimisation, (I'd not heard of it before googling, it's not in steams top 25 played chart), yes you can crank settings and bring current hardware to it's knees with some games. But these are not the latest must have AAA game to come out, that everyone wants to play, when Crysis came out virtually everyone needed an upgrade/whole new system to play.
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crisis was a good looking game on full bubble... however I am not sure what you are championing here.... imo crysis was appalling really, because on low detail it still ran poorly (i had a 7800gtx at the time) and on low it looked worse and still ran WAY worse than other games of its era.

IMO a GOOD game in terms of technology brings even the most high end rig to its knees if you push everything to 11, but also scales back to support a wide range of hardware. just look at DOOM (reboot) or, I dunno, witcher 2 or Dying light maybe. All of these games run really well on lower end hardware, push them to the max and they look incredible - yes even the 7 year old witcher 2 - and are quite capable of making a top end gpu sweat.

that to me is the kind of benchmark i think devs should be looking toward..,.... not just , runs like a dog so upgrade your rig. (iirc crysis didnt even support more than 1 cpu core!)
 
Crysis ran full tilt on an 8800GT, still best looking game to be but some lesser looking games now push systems much more.
 
melmac said:
None of your arguments are convincing at all. They are basically you just ranting.
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His entire argument is based on what "someone with a Radeon 290" needs to spend in order to get an "upgrade"... not realising that "someone with a 290" makes up about 0.2% of GPU's being used by e.g. people who also use steam
 
bigmike20vt said:
crisis was a good looking game on full bubble... however I am not sure what you are championing here.... imo crysis was appalling really, because on low detail it still ran poorly (i had a 7800gtx at the time) and on low it looked worse and still ran WAY worse than other games of its era.

IMO a GOOD game in terms of technology brings even the most high end rig to its knees if you push everything to 11, but also scales back to support a wide range of hardware. just look at DOOM (reboot) or, I dunno, witcher 2 or Dying light maybe. All of these games run really well on lower end hardware, push them to the max and they look incredible - yes even the 7 year old witcher 2 - and are quite capable of making a top end gpu sweat.

that to me is the kind of benchmark i think devs should be looking toward..,.... not just , runs like a dog so upgrade your rig. (iirc crysis didnt even support more than 1 cpu core!)
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I'm championing the push the limits bit. Not for the individual, but for the industry.

https://www.pcgamer.com/10-years-later-we-can-finally-run-crysis/

The post-mortem at the bottom covers it.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Wouldn't have a palit for free.

Prices still too high for years old tech.
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Jesus Christ... you all moan about pricing being too high, then when it drops back to what you claimed to be ok previously... you then come up with other excuses not to buy... bet you are a real hoot at the pub.
 
Stella is my usual drink at the pub, but Peroni is better.
This is mainly because only a limited number of pubs have Peroni.
 
andybird123 said:
He's an embittered AMD buyer, hence the rage at miners because miners mostly buy AMD cards where possible, its the nvidia cards that are returning to close to rrp prices, but he was never going to buy an nvidia card anyway but AMD equivalent pricing is much worse off on the FPS front so it makes no sense to buy AMD either
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I am? When did this happen?

Either you're confusing me with someone else or I know less about my GPU buying habits than you do, which... isn't likely.

Also 290 owners are not the only ones for whom the current market sucks.

It's funny you know how the miners won't acknowledge in any way that anybody has a problem with current prices. It's all "This is fine, stop moaning, earn more. Nothing to see here, no problem. Just the same as it's always been. Supply and demand. Nothing different here." I find it odd that miners won't give an inch in any argument :p

Finally @melmac please tell me where I said developers would stop making games?

Can you guys at least reply to what I've actually said, rather than a) Making stuff up about me or b) Constructing straw men all the damn time?
 
FoxEye said:
It's funny you know how the miners won't acknowledge in any way that anybody has a problem with current prices. It's all "This is fine, stop moaning, earn more. Nothing to see here, no problem. Just the same as it's always been. Supply and demand. Nothing different here." I find it odd that miners won't give an inch in any argument :p
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Half of them are probably doing it to get a rise out of people like yourself, and the other half are being quite genuine. I'm with the half who are genuine, I mean if all this wasn't happening how many of you would actually be buying new cards?

This isn't like when I built my first gaming PC 11 years ago and the £120 ATi 3850 I had was obsolete within 2 years. You could buy a 1050ti right now and be able to play any game at 1080p, and very likely any game in the next few years, at acceptable settings and maintain a smooth frame rate. A £420 GPU today, like a 1070ti, will last a lot longer than a £420 GPU from yesteryear. So 'gamers' need to just hold onto what they have if they don't want to spend that much money, simples.

But yeah, these last few pages have been just as fascinating as they have been cringeworthy. That said, you'd be a mug to pass up a Strix 1080ti for 600 quid right now. :P
 
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