are you talking just about the introductory period? Because yes, there could be delays there. Perhaps overtime or bank staff brought in. But beyond that (which should be fairly brief), there isn't a need for extra work.
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By this sort of reasoning we should just fast track everyone and the system will run so much faster!
Let me guess you have the design for perpetual motion on hand as well as a way to get round some other laws of physics?
If my gran is at position number 10 at the very start of any given working day in your system of 5 in and 5 processed per day with a que of 50 (at the end or start or any day) total she stands to be dealt with sometime tomorrow (or the next working day). Now if at the end of the day Yaron (a jew) or Muhammed (a Muslim) turn up under the 'cab rank' rule they would be in position number 50 and would be waiting another 10 days to be dealt with.
Under the system you apparently condone I now have to wait an additional day for my gran to be dealt with as she's bumped to position 11 and won't be dealt with till the day after tomorrow (assuming she doesn't get bumped again by five places in a given day).
The overall averages remain the same but this is maintained by preferential treatment of one group to the disadvantage of the rest!
No in general, every time someone skips the queue everyone else is delayed/moved back a place. It is pretty straightforward, if you were in place 2 you're now in place 3 and so on.
remember that other Jews and Muslims who died just ahead of her will have cleared the queue before she got to it, thanks to being fasttracked. So whilst new-arrivals Yaron and Muhammed might have pushed her back, [another Jew name] and [another Muslim name] would have been in front of her instead under the same-for-all system.
No you haven't, you've seemingly just not understood that if the average processing time is the same but one group has it decreased the other group will see an increase.
Your only explanations so far have been to seemingly change the model by taking about increased work then seemingly deny that you changed it.
But it really is that simple, if you let someone skip to the front then everyone else is pushed back a place...
I literally just have you an example where i have to wait an extra day because of this policy.
Is my example right or not?
Its really crazy that you seem to seriously believe that without changing capacity or the overall demand for the service that you can fast track some people without slowing the others down!
Seriously you seem to have broken the laws of physics and maths!
But.... as I've said so many times, the main 'slow' queue is shorter thanks to the fasttrackers being taken out of it. When they then slot in at the front, it just pushes the 'slow' group back to where they would have been if those 'fast' guys had been in the 'slow' queue all along!
And I pointed out that she gained by having no Jews and Muslims in the 'slow' queue ahead of her. Balanced against the fasttrack ones that's a net zero effect.
@cheesyboy : forget queues, fast-tracking, etc for a moment - do you agree that religious privilege should always be given priority?
No
**** religion, honestly. But if people can be given comfort at a difficult time at no cost to others, then allow it
You're just confusing things for yourself tbh... there are the same number of dead bodies, they're processed at the same rate... if someone from the back of the queue moves to the front then everyone else moves back a place.
If you want to talk about two queues then fine, the slow queue is shorter by one place because a Jew has joined the fast queue that was previously empty - but in that case place 1 in the slow queue = place 2 in the old queue... however you want to frame it if someone skips to the front then the rest take a step back one place.
Only when the que is looked at as a whole! How many times does this need to be pointed out?
This is achieved by prefereretial treatment of one part of the group to the detriment of the other.!
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To say the average wait time hasn’t changed is true, but deliberately misleading. The average time for Jews & Muslims has decreased at the expense of everyone else whose average time has been increased.
You're so close to getting it
10 Jews or Muslims are taken out of the slow queue. Everyone else gains by 10 places. They step forward one place, if you like.
Then, you get 10 Jews and Muslims being fasttracked back in. Everyone loses 10 places. They step back one place.
So.... Who is worse off?
You're so close to getting it
10 Jews or Muslims are taken out of the slow queue. Everyone else gains by 10 places. They step forward one place, if you like.
Then, you get 10 Jews and Muslims being fasttracked back in. Everyone loses 10 places. They step back one place.
So.... Who is worse off?
The non Jews and muslims because the people otherwise behind of them have been shifted forward pushing them down the overall que to make way.
You're so close to getting it
10 Jews or Muslims are taken out of the slow queue. Everyone else gains by 10 places. They step forward one place, if you like.
Then, you get 10 Jews and Muslims being fasttracked back in. Everyone loses 10 places. They step back one place.
So.... Who is worse off?
Anyone who was previously in front of the Jews and Muslims and now waits for them to be processed. (This is the bit where you do some hand waving and try to introduce a more efficient system where the coroner works super hard to process the fast track queue or something)
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Ok, maybe I'm misunderstanding. Has extra processing capacity been added? If yes, then you have a point. If no, everyone else does.You're so close to getting it
10 Jews or Muslims are taken out of the slow queue. Everyone else gains by 10 places. They step forward one place, if you like.
Then, you get 10 Jews and Muslims being fasttracked back in. Everyone loses 10 places. They step back one place.
So.... Who is worse off?