Council Tax Liability

Maundie · 17 May 2018 at 16:21

DAIR said:
The council have said that the tenancy ended on the 27th.

And that is why you are liable for council tax up to the 27th then

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 16:28

crinkleshoes said:
If your contract ended on the 28th, then yes... although depending on the type of vandalism would define whether it was your contents insurance or the landlord's property insurance that would be pulled from.

Oh please... You cannot be serious. No one in their right mind would accept liability if that happened.... Keys were handed and the tenant moved on.

BYTEr · 17 May 2018 at 16:31

Surely it depends on your tenancy contract.

If it states the 27th then I'd presume you're liable and I'd pay it.

If you moved out before your contract date then I'd guess your only recourse would be to get a letter from the landlord stating the tenancy ended early on the 22nd.

crinkleshoes · 17 May 2018 at 16:34

DAIR said:
Oh please... You cannot be serious. No one in their right mind would accept liability if that happened.... Keys were handed and the tenant moved on.

So what you're trying to avoid telling us is that your contract ended on either the 27th or 28th and you want to argue that because you left early that you're not liable.

You're liable until the end of your contract, whether or not you've handed back your keys early.

It even says that in the contract you signed... re-read it

Ahleckz · 17 May 2018 at 16:35

Enzo said:
Just a similar question on this topic

If I moved out of my house at the end of November 2017 and had fully payed upto the end of Council tax year (March 2018) am I due a refund as the people we sold it to presumably started being liable for paying Council tax from the start of December 2017 when they moved in ?

I had a single person discount backdated to when I moved into my flat in April 2016, so certainly worth asking. Took literally 5 minutes for my single person discount to be refunded for 2016-2017, 2017-2018 and applied for this year. Was offered best part of £800 as a cheque but I decided to put it towards my account meaning I'm paying around £20 a month for my council tax this year.

Obviously, I had paid this money but I just assumed the single person discount was set up as I sent away the forms. Turns out they hadn't received them. Couldn't believe how quickly they fixed it. This was Glasgow City Council so your mileage may differ.

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 16:38

crinkleshoes said:
So what you're trying to avoid telling us is that your contract ended on either the 27th or 28th and you want to argue that because you left early that you're not liable.

You're liable until the end of your contract, whether or not you've handed back your keys early.

It even says that in the contract you signed... re-read it

I haven't avoided anything. I didn't pluck the 27th from thin air lol. It was the date they gave me.

They've said that the landlord said the 27th. I'll be asking for proof of this.

crinkleshoes · 17 May 2018 at 16:44

DAIR said:
I haven't avoided anything. I didn't pluck the 27th from thin air lol. It was the date they gave me.

They've said that the landlord said the 27th. I'll be asking for proof of this.

Look at your contract?
When was your rent due?
What date did your tenancy start?
Do you have anything in writing from your landlord confirming his/her agreement to terminate the tenancy on a specific date (note, this is not the same as handing the keys back early)?

You've come on here asking for help and for some reason you don't want to answer valid questions...

Scam · 17 May 2018 at 16:48

DAIR said:
They've said that the landlord said the 27th. I'll be asking for proof of this.

Did you get any sort of discount on the last months rent pro rata? From between the 22nd when you moved out and the 27th? If not, then you're outta luck too as you've paid rent for up to the 27th.

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 16:50

Sorry but what questions have I ducked?

I said that I rented the place. And that the agreement was a rolling month arrangement. I've told you the period I'm being charged for...... What more do you want to know lol?!

I just feel that it seems wrong to be responsible for a property I no longer live in. So I refuse to throw away £20 like it's nothing.

COYS · 17 May 2018 at 16:52

Jesus the level of thickness from the OP. Just pay it and stop wasting people's time if you refuse to answer the most basic of questions from people giving you sound advice.

crinkleshoes · 17 May 2018 at 16:53

DAIR said:
Sorry but what questions have I ducked?

I said that I rented the place. And that the agreement was a rolling month arrangement. I've told you the period I'm being charged for...... What more do you want to know lol?!

I just feel that it seems wrong to be responsible for a property I no longer live in. So I refuse to throw away £20 like it's nothing.

Many people have asked you when your contract ended... you still haven't answered that.

There are these too:

crinkleshoes said:
Look at your contract?
When was your rent due?
What date did your tenancy start?
Do you have anything in writing from your landlord confirming his/her agreement to terminate the tenancy on a specific date (note, this is not the same as handing the keys back early)?

You've come on here asking for help and for some reason you don't want to answer valid questions...

Answer these and I/we can help you fight it or tell you it's not worth fighting.

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 16:58

Mate...... I said the 27th. The council told me that the landlord told them that the tenancy ended on the 27th.

The day after I moved out I informed the council. I also sent them details of my new tenancy agreement.... I didn't just one day wake up. Move out and put the keys through the letterbox.

Everything was arranged with the landlord.

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 16:59

As for when my tenancy started ...... I can't remember that. I moved there around 2 years ago.

touch · 17 May 2018 at 17:00

DAIR said:
Mate...... I said the 27th. The council told me that

So if you're so sure the council are correct, why are you questioning them?

crinkleshoes · 17 May 2018 at 17:07

DAIR said:
Mate...... I said the 27th. The council told me that the landlord told them that the tenancy ended on the 27th.

The day after I moved out I informed the council. I also sent them details of my new tenancy agreement.... I didn't just one day wake up. Move out and put the keys through the letterbox.

Everything was arranged with the landlord.

You said the council said that and the landlord said that to the council but not that you agreed that was the end date of the contract.

If that's when the contract expired, then it's not worth chasing as you would be liable for the council tax til that date, even if you handed the keys back early. It stipulates this in every tenancy contract I've seen and I've been through a few of them. Otherwise it would be an implied term of a standard base contract, unless your council tax was included in the rent.

The only way you could get out of that then, would be written confirmation from the landlord that he/she agreed to terminate your tenancy early on the 22nd - then you'd be able to claim the £20.

Otherwise, just pay the £20 and move on with your life.

DAIR · 17 May 2018 at 17:10

Like I said. Plan is to pay the 20 and then make some enquiries.

touch · 17 May 2018 at 17:14

DAIR said:
Like I said. Plan is to pay the 20 and then make some enquiries.

I'm certain this will go well for you.

Scam · 17 May 2018 at 18:07

DAIR said:
Mate...... I said the 27th. The council told me that the landlord told them that the tenancy ended on the 27th.

There's a bit of paper that you would have signed and kept a copy which detailed minor things like how much rent you would pay, who your landlord is etc. Find it.

UTmaniac · 17 May 2018 at 18:15

Has the OP put money aside yet for the standing charge gas and electricity up until the 27th?