Intention to prosecute for speeding (37mph in a 30 zone)

Looks like you're in the Met area. If you have not had a speed awareness course in the last 3 years, you should be offered one. Awareness courses are offered between 35-42MPH in a 30MPH limit.
 
Kiethton said:
What's strangest to me is it seems to be an actual copper in a 5 series estate and not a van - thought they'd always come to actually pull you over, not send stuff via the post after
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Most often in that scenario you would get one copper in, or stood next to their car, with the speed gun, then another up the road to get radioed to pull you over.

However if there is only one officer with a car, then If the police officer with the radar gun deems it safe enough to catch up to you and pull you over, then they will probably take this action and then issue a fixed penalty notice on the spot.

But if the officer thinks they may endanger other motorists, or the weather is unfavorable, or by the time they have packed stuff away and start to follow you, you will have got to far away to follow safely, then they’ll probably stay put.

However, they will have logged the licence plate of the car they’ve caught speeding with the radar gun, so they’ll use this information to issue a NIP to the address of the car’s registered keeper.
 
Urrgh, hate seeing scameras misused like this >.>

Feel sorry for the copper too, I bet when he joined the police force he had dreams of busting down doors, investigating crimes and helping the public, not sitting at the side of the road generating revenue lol.
 
Rikk82 said:
The amount of people that still do 35-40mph in 30mph zones is ridiculous, as is the resultant tailgating.
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Literally every person behind me seems to get inpatient in a 30, even if on my speedo I have it set to 34 or so. I haven't seen a speed camera (other than fixed motorway gantries) since I last visited Wales last summer, so this probably doesn't help.
 
ubersonic said:
Urrgh, hate seeing scameras misused like this >.>

Feel sorry for the copper too, I bet when he joined the police force he had dreams of busting down doors, investigating crimes and helping the public, not sitting at the side of the road generating revenue lol.
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Could be that local residents have complained that people speed in the area and so the police are pro-actively doing something about it.
 
ubersonic said:
Urrgh, hate seeing scameras misused like this >.>

Feel sorry for the copper too, I bet when he joined the police force he had dreams of busting down doors, investigating crimes and helping the public, not sitting at the side of the road generating revenue lol.
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How's it misused? He was doing 25% over the limit!
 
Dis86 said:
How's it misused? He was doing 25% over the limit!
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Because the placement of the camera will do nothing to curb/prevent speeding through the town or past the school, it contributes approximately zero to road safety, it's been placed there specifically to make money.

I'm all in favour of safety cameras being placed in accident blackspots or places were speeding motorists pose a danger to pedestrians. That's a good idea because the known/visible presence of cameras or even the fear thereof will cause drivers to slow thus improving road safety.

What's been done here is no different than North Wales police hiding their cameras in horse boxes in laybys, it's a pure money making endeavour and a total misuse of police assets/time.
 
ubersonic said:
Because the placement of the camera will do nothing to curb/prevent speeding through the town or past the school, it contributes approximately zero to road safety, it's been placed there specifically to make money.

I'm all in favour of safety cameras being placed in accident blackspots or places were speeding motorists pose a danger to pedestrians. That's a good idea because the known/visible presence of cameras or even the fear thereof will cause drivers to slow thus improving road safety.

What's been done here is no different than North Wales police hiding their cameras in horse boxes in laybys, it's a pure money making endeavour and a total misuse of police assets/time.
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Or by not knowing where a camera will be you're forced to abide by the law at all times instead of just slowing down at one location.
Don't like being prosecuted for speeding? Don't speed. Simple.
If you do wanna speed then be prepared to pay the piper from time to time.
 
Usually for these types of offences, I call their bluff and say my car was being test driven by many local reputable dealers and I couldn't realistically be expected to remember which one was driving and at what time, or what route they took. If the photo comes back (if there even is one) and the driver is difficult to make out, it could be worth it. To be honest though, the easiest method is to hope for a SAC and suck up the loss of 4 hours of your life whilst someone tells you about braking distances, child killers, etc etc
 
Django x2 said:
Usually for these types of offences, I call their bluff and say my car was being test driven by many local reputable dealers and I couldn't realistically be expected to remember which one was driving and at what time, or what route they took. If the photo comes back (if there even is one) and the driver is difficult to make out, it could be worth it. To be honest though, the easiest method is to hope for a SAC and suck up the loss of 4 hours of your life whilst someone tells you about braking distances, child killers, etc etc
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Ahh, the whole perverting the course of justice strategy. Whilst sometimes it works, you are risking jail time for what is otherwise a low level motoring offence.
 
Dis86 said:
Or by not knowing where a camera will be you're forced to abide by the law at all times instead of just slowing down at one location.
Don't like being prosecuted for speeding? Don't speed. Simple.
If you do wanna speed then be prepared to pay the piper from time to time.
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This, frankly it doesn't seem worth the risk carrying any sort of speed round my area because of all the unmarked cars and mobile cameras in odd places.
 
ubersonic said:
Because the placement of the camera will do nothing to curb/prevent speeding through the town or past the school, it contributes approximately zero to road safety, it's been placed there specifically to make money.

I'm all in favour of safety cameras being placed in accident blackspots or places were speeding motorists pose a danger to pedestrians. That's a good idea because the known/visible presence of cameras or even the fear thereof will cause drivers to slow thus improving road safety.

What's been done here is no different than North Wales police hiding their cameras in horse boxes in laybys, it's a pure money making endeavour and a total misuse of police assets/time.
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maybe the fact someone was caught and will be fined/pointed/whatever will encourage them to drive properly from now on, so the camera has done its job and contributed to road safety. if the driver's going to be a continuing dumbass and keep driving like that then it's a fault of the driver, not hte camera or the placement or anything else.
 
Django x2 said:
Usually for these types of offences, I call their bluff and say my car was being test driven by many local reputable dealers and I couldn't realistically be expected to remember which one was driving and at what time, or what route they took. If the photo comes back (if there even is one) and the driver is difficult to make out, it could be worth it. To be honest though, the easiest method is to hope for a SAC and suck up the loss of 4 hours of your life whilst someone tells you about braking distances, child killers, etc etc
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How many times have you used this strategy??
 
Django x2 said:
Usually for these types of offences, I call their bluff and say my car was being test driven by many local reputable dealers and I couldn't realistically be expected to remember which one was driving and at what time, or what route they took. If the photo comes back (if there even is one) and the driver is difficult to make out, it could be worth it. To be honest though, the easiest method is to hope for a SAC and suck up the loss of 4 hours of your life whilst someone tells you about braking distances, child killers, etc etc
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Burnsy2023 said:
Ahh, the whole perverting the course of justice strategy. Whilst sometimes it works, you are risking jail time for what is otherwise a low level motoring offence.
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I can't imagine this would be a suitable justification for failing to identify the driver of the vehicle, and would be pretty easy to disprove in court if it came to it.
 
if driver is unidentified :
can police easily access phone location records to proove you were in the vicinity ? circumstantial, but could contradict a story you had otherwise spun.
Does 'case' get closed, or it is hanging, pending them potentially doing more investigation too (local cameras?)
 
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