Do not buy phones from Samsung ever again

I'm glad there is a little anti Samsung sentiment here. Their phones run ****droid, not Android - they completely eviscerate the OS and I really can't understand why customers get sucked in by their crappy phones.
 
I'll have it for 1 to 2 years then pass onto a family member knowing it will still be supported for a while yet, instead of abandoned.

I'd be fine knowing the security updates were still frequent. I couldnt give a hoot what OS it was on when i pass it on :p

I'm glad there is a little anti Samsung sentiment here. Their phones run ****droid, not Android - they completely eviscerate the OS and I really can't understand why customers get sucked in by their crappy phones.

completely? ...no.
 
The longer the better but I learned along time ago when it comes to android, don't expect any more than 2 years of updates, anything after that is a bonus.

Not as bothered about big updates as what I used to be either.

Quite liking the Samsung skin currently too (with a dark pixel theme from the galaxy store)
 
Why do you need to update the note 4? Also, the note 4 is about 4 years old since release. I had one until a month or so ago and can't tell you much OS difference from my brand new huawei p20 Pro flagship.

I believe the note 4 was also receiving security updates before I sold it also
 
Generally keep my phones for 18months then hand on to the missus. Knowing it'll be kept up to date for the duration of her ownership is quite comforting!

Genuinely, why? does she even care if her phone is on the latest version of android? I'm referring to OS updates here, not security patches of course as they're essential IMO :)
 
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Genuinely, why? does she even care if her phone is on the latest version of android? I'm referring to OS updates here, not security patches of course :)
No she probably doesn't give a monkeys but regardless I feel better about her having something that's kept up to date as we'll both be using the same OS... Just like apple users get to enjoy.
 
I've got niggly thought in the back of my mind that Qualcomm has a hand in this (although not strictly Samsung), in that they don't guarantee drivers for their parts of phone SOCs for more than 2 years, but I can't remember where or when I read this. Rings a bell, but my search-fu is a bit weak after coming off the tail end of an accidental turbo nap earlier.
 
I've got niggly thought in the back of my mind that Qualcomm has a hand in this (although not strictly Samsung), in that they don't guarantee drivers for their parts of phone SOCs for more than 2 years, but I can't remember where or when I read this. Rings a bell, but my search-fu is a bit weak after coming off the tail end of an accidental turbo nap earlier.
If that was the case why are Google now offering 3 years OS updates?
Not really surprised by Samsung's stance given historically you're lucky to get 1 year out of them never mind 2 (though they are better now admittedly)
 
I've got niggly thought in the back of my mind that Qualcomm has a hand in this (although not strictly Samsung), in that they don't guarantee drivers for their parts of phone SOCs for more than 2 years, but I can't remember where or when I read this. Rings a bell, but my search-fu is a bit weak after coming off the tail end of an accidental turbo nap earlier.

It's in the interests of both Qualcomm and the OEMs for older devices to abandoned within 2 years so people go out and buy new devices. So nobody has really pushed hard to change the game until Google decided they would do something for Pixel owners.

As you can see from this thread, plenty of people have accepted that's it's perfectly OK their £800-£1000 device is considered obsolete after 24 months of service. I bet PC makers like Dell and HP are looking on with envy that their customers don't feel the same about laptops and desktop computers. :p
 
Qualcomm have been a mess since Apple went 64bit and left them in the lurch - it is sad that Android has to still rely on them. The sooner Google release their own SoC the better and until then we're stuck with them.
 
Doesn't the results of the case just affect people/phones in the Netherlands?
I don't think it mentions other countries.

I think its a bit of yes and no, assuming my understanding of it is correct. Its not that Samsung were doing anything different in the Netherlands, just that a consumer group happened to challenge it there and loose, so yeah nothing changes for us. However if it had gone the other way then I guess it would have been good for us, as if they had to provide updates for longer there then they may as well elsewhere, and even if they didn't decided to do that people in other countries might challenge them in the same way after that ruling had gone against them.
 
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