Idiot Son and 6 points

Freakbro said:
I think it's because there's another qualifying part of that statement - that it's "Further points that take you up to a total of 6 or more"

So what happens when you're on 6 already?

Is it ambiguous or just comprehension fail? :p
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The same happens as when you get 6 points in the first two years and have to retake your tests. That leaves you in the position of having 6 points and taking your test too.
 
I think there is a difference between getting 6 points and having 6 points. The transferred points from provisional license are not looked at as new so don't seem to count in the 2 year rule. However they do seem to count in the totting up points score.
It wouldn't make sense (yes I know UK law isn't sensible) to make a penalised driver take the test twice before getting a full license for the first time.
Andi.
 
Freakbro said:
Well, licensed insured drivers hurt plenty of people too ;) And the victim is still covered by the MIB if he did have an accident. (No that's not justification in any way!)

I've just googled and I'm actually shocked at the numbers of unisured cars there are tbh!

Table one: League table of the UK’s top 10 uninsured vehicle hotspots

Area Percentage of vehicles that are uninsured Chance of vehicle involved in an accident being uninsured
  • East London 13.4% 1 in 8
    North London 9.3% 1 in 11
    South East London 9.1% 1 in 11
    Liverpool 7.9% 1 in 13
    Bradford 7.6% 1 in 13
    Manchester 7.4% 1 in 14
    North West London 7.4% 1 in 14
    Oldham 7.2% 1 in 14
    Ilford 7.1% 1 in 14
    East Central London 6.6% 1 in 1
Source: Churchill Car Insurance analysis of Motor Insurers’ Bureau data

https://www.churchill.com/press-office/releases/2016/uninsured-driving-hotspots-in-the-uk
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If those are really the numbers, should it not be a priority to crack down on? How hard can it be to put up a few more roadside cameras to nick people? I guess if the car is completely unregistered then it won't be easy to track down the offender. But if up to 1 in 8 cars are uninsured, surely the police just need sit in a layby and run checks on cars that drive past and follow offending ones?
 
From wording it looks like he can take his test and the 6 point rule will apply as normal. He'll just have 6 points from the get go and another 6 points will result in a ban plus a retest. That's how it seems me anyway.
 
dl8860 said:
If those are really the numbers, should it not be a priority to crack down on? How hard can it be to put up a few more roadside cameras to nick people? I guess if the car is completely unregistered then it won't be easy to track down the offender. But if up to 1 in 8 cars are uninsured, surely the police just need sit in a layby and run checks on cars that drive past and follow offending ones?
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It's uninsured drivers not cars.
 
Update He rang the DVLA and he can have a full licence but if even sneezes in the 1st 2 years while in a car he's back to a provisional So I've told him take your test asap and don't drive for 2 years well 4years really till 6 points fall off lol

He was pulled due to the police just doing a random check on the car after spotting two youngish lads driving at 2:30am , His friend has a full licence and was lucky not to be charged with anything at the time

I woke up in the morning and found the "your car has been seized" and a sorry note from him with his house key and he'd packed a suitcase ready to be evicted
 
IAmATeaf said:
Does make me wonder if this was the first time of many that he had taken the car?
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i did the exact same thing at about the same age, ~25 years ago......never got caught but never did it again. still feel quilty about it to this day. just because you make a stupid mistake once doesn't mean you're a 'serial offender'
 
pinkpound said:
Update He rang the DVLA and he can have a full licence but if even sneezes in the 1st 2 years while in a car he's back to a provisional So I've told him take your test asap and don't drive for 2 years well 4years really till 6 points fall off lol

He was pulled due to the police just doing a random check on the car after spotting two youngish lads driving at 2:30am , His friend has a full licence and was lucky not to be charged with anything at the time

I woke up in the morning and found the "your car has been seized" and a sorry note from him with his house key and he'd packed a suitcase ready to be evicted
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Sounds like he gained some life experience.
 
dl8860 said:
If those are really the numbers, should it not be a priority to crack down on? How hard can it be to put up a few more roadside cameras to nick people? I guess if the car is completely unregistered then it won't be easy to track down the offender. But if up to 1 in 8 cars are uninsured, surely the police just need sit in a layby and run checks on cars that drive past and follow offending ones?
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Follow any force's Roads Policing Unit on Twitter and you'll see they spend a large portion of their day seizing vehicles for no insurance offences (which more often than not, leads to other offences being discovered also).
 
Thekwango said:
i did the exact same thing at about the same age, ~25 years ago......never got caught but never did it again. still feel quilty about it to this day. just because you make a stupid mistake once doesn't mean you're a 'serial offender'
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It doesn't really fall under the "stupid mistake" heading though does it? A stupid mistake is missing a speed limit or other signage. Misjudging an emerge into a road or some other split second decision or oversight. A spur of the moment decision we all get wrong at that age. Getting into and driving a car uninsured and without a license is selfish and reckless, it takes some thinking about. The fact that he was pulled at 2:30 in the morning sounds like it was more of a joy ride with his mates. I assume he also took the car without consent. Sounds like it was deserving of more than just a few points on his license.
 
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