MPs to debate adding Staffies to dangerous dogs list

You're not really presenting any sort of coherent argument here - what exactly is it that you think people don't get?

Why do you think Staffies are on the short list? Because people who couldn't give a rat's own the breed and walk then around like they're God, ergo your average person doesn't want to be associated with the breed and generally see's them as 'dangerous'.

I've had worse encounters with Yorkshire Terriers :p Just last week one attempted to maul my leg because I dared dare it back into its property so it didn't get run over in the road it decided to walk on to, stupid thing.
 
I think the Staffie defenders here need to look at an industry standard risk assessment matrix.

You have a few things to consider here...

Chance of an incident being one and the likely impact of an incident being another.

I have come across plenty of nasty little dogs but none that would likely have the capacity to do significant damage to a human.

I have seen a few Staffie's go bad and its terrifying.

I'll be cross referencing the pooch defenders later to see if any of poster's have previously been critical of organisations like the NRA with the 'guns aren't the problem bad owners are type of line'.
 
Why do you think Staffies are on the short list? Because people who couldn't give a rat's own the breed and walk then around like they're God, ergo your average person doesn't want to be associated with the breed and generally see's them as 'dangerous'.

Have you bothered to read the thread? I've already answered that question. What argument are you putting forth, you've still not offered much?

I've had worse encounters with Yorkshire Terriers :p Just last week one attempted to maul my leg because I dared dare it back into its property so it didn't get run over in the road it decided to walk on to, stupid thing.

So what? Any dog can attack, that is completely missing the point.

I'll be cross referencing the pooch defenders later to see if any of poster's have previously been critical of organisations like the NRA with the 'guns aren't the problem bad owners are type of line'.

indeed
 
licencing is the answer, people should be educated and checked up on ideally, although not cheap.

Suerly something like an alsation can do much more damage. Staffies have a bad image due to the owners.
 
Ding ding ding with have an early entry.. .

There's no point of discussing gun canine control for America the UK With the atrocious amount of children being murdered over and over again already not being enough really shows that nothing ever will. They had someone shoot up a primary school dogs maul babies to death in their own homes and still it made no difference. I mean what worse could happen than that?
 
Oh noes, cross referencing! :D

May as well ban sled dogs with this attitude, what with their high prey drive and all
 
Staffies have a bad image due to the owners.

and due to killing people/inflicting serious injuries regardless of their owners

ANY dog can flip out, even a dog that an owner thinks is fine - difference is that a staffie or pit bull type dog flipping out has way more severe consequences thus you get kids/babies killed by the family dog... not just strangers attacked by a neglected/aggressive dog
 
Any before the inevetiable you can't compare a gun to a dog....

What's a gun designed (primarily) to do?

A) shoot people and animals

What we're bull terriers bred for?

A) fighting other large animals.....



Both a gun and and a Staffie are formidable weapons in the right, wrong (or in the case of the dog) nobodies hands.
 
I think we should ban Pugs and other other mungrels of that ilk, they've been bred into oblivion and thus can no longer breath, all owners should also be hit with the cruelty to animals book.
 
Any before the inevetiable you can't compare a gun to a dog....

What's a gun designed (primarily) to do?

A) shoot people and animals

What we're bull terriers bred for?

A) fighting other large animals.....




Both a gun and and a Staffie are formidable weapons in the right, wrong (or in the case of the dog) nobodies hands.
Are guns living, sentient creatures? No, they’re hunks of metal to which people have no emotional connection.
 
Are guns living, sentient creatures? No, they’re hunks of metal to which people have no emotional connection.

So we agree that staffies can, in some cases, be more of a threat as they don't even require any human intervention to cause havoc?

I would have no trouble with a normal, adjusted and sensible member of the public keeping a handgun Staffie safely in their house, not on the streets (unless muzzled and on a lead) .

However, since there is no definitive way to test someone's suitability to own a gun Staffie , then it's a no from me.

Whatcha think?
 
So we agree that staffies can, in some cases, be more of a threat as they don't even require any human intervention to cause havoc?



Whatcha think?
What are you talking about? Are you even comprehending what you’re posting?

All you’re showing is that I agree that responsible people should be allowed to keep handguns and that people should be allowed to keep staffies. I’m hardly contradicting myself am I? Quite the opposite, I’m being quite consistent.
 
What are you talking about? Are you even comprehending what you’re posting?

All you’re showing is that I agree that responsible people should be allowed to keep handguns and that people should be allowed to keep staffies. I’m hardly contradicting myself am I? Quite the opposite, I’m being quite consistent.

Yes but the final section is the clincher. There's no sensible way to test who is and isn't a responsible owner.
 
What are you talking about? Are you even comprehending what you’re posting?

All you’re showing is that I agree that responsible people should be allowed to keep handguns and that people should be allowed to keep staffies. I’m hardly contradicting myself am I? Quite the opposite, I’m being quite consistent.

Perhaps you should re read your post about guns....


I'll help you out a bit....

You said there was no 'definitive' way to sort the 'good' owners from the 'bad' and so it was a 'no' to all. ..
 
Yes but the final section is the clincher. There's no sensible way to test who is and isn't a responsible owner.
Difference being handguns are owned with one intention, and that’s to cause harm to another individual either by self defence or so,etching more sinister.

Dogs are owned for their companionship. I would imagine well over 90% of staffies are owned by people who want them to be companion dogs to their family and not the mindless killers everyone’s making them out to be.
 
Perhaps you should re read your post about guns....


I'll help you out a bit....

You said there was no 'definitive' way to sort the 'good' owners from the 'bad' and so it was a 'no' to all. ..
You can have good and bad owners of both guns and dogs. However, your much more likely to have far more problems with the unsuitable gun owners than the dog owners. Guns (handguns) have one purpose, killing people, dogs don’t.
 
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