May have lost my job so looking for advice on saving money

all the best with the situation. When asked your side of the story try to be calm and clear - also point out that you have 8 years experience/proof that you are not hot headed or likely to raise your voice to a colleague (assuming your don't...) and thus this is obviously a 1 off that is in response to damage to your personal property (which tbh sounds accidental - unless he knew what was in your bag). Don't think they just saw you shouting this 1 time and that's it - you have the past 8 years experience working with them as proof of your true non-confrontational temperament.
 
chaparral said:
He didn't throw anything at me...

When he threw the work bench (I was behind him and the bench when he threw it , I was not in front of it) so there was no danger to me
And my work bag he threw across the floor and not at me

And like I said before it only my word against his so it not that easy..
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****** situation and i hope everyone comes in your favor.

Didn't you say in the other thread when initially quizzed about this he admitted in front of you and your manager that he threw your stuff but didn't realize the phone was in it?
 
@chaparral

Stop looking at the negative and start looking at how much you are going to squeeze out of the company, start formulating plans.

If you go back to work and you are not compensated for the damage / reparations, then look at bringing a claim for a breach of duty of care.

If they try to use it as an excuse to get rid of you, then constructive or unfair dismissal.

Key points: Get a diary NOW. Note down *everything* what has happened, that led up to the incident and *everything* that has happened after. No matter how small, *note it down so you dont forget and it builds your case*

Save *every* bit of correspondence relating to it, record conversations on your phone / get a voice recorder and learn how to use it for anything discussed verbally. Soon as you can, transfer those recordings to paper, not as a transcript but as a summary of what was discussed.

No doubt you will have an interview with your boss / HR, make sure to take a work friend as a witness to what was discussed and said and make detailed notes.

Don't be afraid to ask here for advice. You have done nothing wrong and under no circumstances can you be left worse off for it, the law will be on your side, as will we.

It seems you are adverse to confrontation, but time to suck it up and go on the offensive.
 
HybridX said:
****** situation and i hope everyone comes in your favor.

Didn't you say in the other thread when initially quizzed about this he admitted in front of you and your manager that he threw your stuff but didn't realize the phone was in it?
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Yes he admitted that on Thursday afternon ...

But on Friday morning when the mangers spoke to me after speaking again to the other guy it has somehow changed to he only just picked up my work bag and placed it on the floor but still admitted he didn't know the phone was in the bag....(this came from the mangers)
there was also my work jacket throw on the floor (my jacket was next to my bag)
 
I really want to support you and your side of this chaparral but you don't half make it easy on yourself. You should be going into HR saying you no longer felt safe in the workplace. That it's affecting your mental health and so on and that this needs dealt with by HR. Unfortunately you have not done any of this and came out the bad guy and it doesn't sound like from your post's that you have the attitude to take this all the way and drag your work over the coals. It makes me sad I cant do anything to help you as I hate seeing genuine nice people get screwed over by the likes of your work colleague.

I wish you all the best with the investigation bud I really do :(
 
Years ago I packed in a job then immediately set about cutting out goings by cancelling Sky and reducing phone plan etc. Then when I got a new job I realised that I never missed any of those things so never resubscribed to Sky or increased my phone contract. So liberating :)
 
Dave85 said:
I really want to support you and your side of this chaparral but you don't half make it easy on yourself. You should be going into HR saying you no longer felt safe in the workplace. That it's affecting your mental health and so on and that this needs dealt with by HR. Unfortunately you have not done any of this and came out the bad guy and it doesn't sound like from your post's that you have the attitude to take this all the way and drag your work over the coals. It makes me sad I cant do anything to help you as I hate seeing genuine nice people get screwed over by the likes of your work colleague.

I wish you all the best with the investigation bud I really do :(
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You are 100% right I am one of these very soft people that seems to let everyone walk all over me..:( I wish I could hardened up and let all hell break loose on how am getting all the blame on this but I know that not going to ever happen due to me being to soft....

What else really don't help me is that am useless when it comes to putting stuff into the right words in a way how it should be spoken...
 
All the more reason to diarise it as suggested then, so you can fall back on notes and avoid saying the wrong thing or undermining your arguments. Use your time off to compile your evidence and line up someone to sit in on consultations with you.
 
HangTime said:
All the more reason to diarise it as suggested then, so you can fall back on notes and avoid saying the wrong thing or undermining your arguments. Use your time off to compile your evidence and line up someone to sit in on consultations with you.
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Is this notes thing not ********?

I mean angon3 can make false not3s
 
HangTime said:
All the more reason to diarise it as suggested then, so you can fall back on notes and avoid saying the wrong thing or undermining your arguments. Use your time off to compile your evidence and line up someone to sit in on consultations with you.
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I do have this strong feeling that it doesn't really matter what gets said in one of these investigations as the bosses would already had a meeting beforehand about it and workout what going to happen before you even enter the investigation..
 
Mate, if i were a solicitor, i'd be all over this one, they have only suspended you but not the other member of staff. Both should be suspended during this investigation. You also have the right to have someone with you during any meetings, and i would do this if i were you, are you in a union? Can you not get a free half hour session with a lawyer in Guernsey? If not, at least call ACAS to see if they can offer some advice. Your employers have the duty to ensure a fair investigation with no bias to either side. With you on leave and him not, that's favouring him and not you.
 
wez130 said:
Mate, if i were a solicitor, i'd be all over this one, they have only suspended you but not the other member of staff. Both should be suspended during this investigation. You also have the right to have someone with you during any meetings, and i would do this if i were you, are you in a union? Can you not get a free half hour session with a lawyer in Guernsey? If not, at least call ACAS to see if they can offer some advice. Your employers have the duty to ensure a fair investigation with no bias to either side. With you on leave and him not, that's favouring him and not you.
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This. A million times this. You're being scapegoated and need to fight back. Even if you don't get your job back, milk them for everything you can.
 
From what Ive picked up in this thread theyve possibly suspended you to give you chance to calm down and relax. If one of my team were being hyper stressed over an incident and I needed to get to all the facts, I would let them take time off to calm down while the facts are sorted and the investigation is undertaken. Depending on what was said I would possibly also look to suspend the other person. The next point to note is if this other guy does have a temper have any of the other workers seen it, or does he only do it to you?
 
We are only getting one side of the story here so hard to make a judgement on that and jump on the employment tribunal bandwagon especially as that costs money and time.

Seems to me like it might be time to move on anyway and find alternative employment if the company are treating you like this. Try and part on mutual terms and get a reference so it makes it easier to find another job.

As for saving money, if you have no savings and need to save money straight away then yes, start trimming off the fat of your outgoings. Who knows you might walk into another job straight away? Try and look on the positive side
of things.

As for me, I worked at a place for some years and one day a corps of commissionaires security guard zapped me on a speed gun doing 20mph in a 10mph zone and banned my vehicle from the site. My company saw this as a chance to
get rid of me. I found work straight away in another company and never looked back since. It's fate that decides your future.
 
chaparral said:
Would also need to get past my feelings of not wanting to go back after all this hassle..

Most admit with all this not knowing what happening going on it really starts to make you lose interest in the work place and make you wonder if you do want to go back...
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well you could look into other options like tribunal if your feeling your job has been made untenable but then you would need to seek more advice than we can offer here I would guess, the whole issue around the individual with the workbench and your phone could be seen as violence in the workplace(does not have to be towards you directly) also with damaging your own personal equipment is vandalism and borderline bullying I would say but again I would seek more advice based on everything rolled into 1.

Have you rang ACAS?
 
Story does not tie up with the actions that have been taken so far by the employer if I'm completely honest.

You could sell your PC parts for extra income too.
 
Doubt it's been mentioned for sky but...

Tell them you're moving to a house that's in a historic conservation area and sky dishes etc aren't allowed without planning permission. I did exactly this a few years ago (I did actually move to one) and they cancelled my contract (had several months left ) with no charge. Didn't ask for any details either. Worth a shot!
 
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