Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

[ltron]

The $400 2070 sounds very nice and if it is true then it will definitely be replacing my 970.

Where's that chart from? An extra $200 dollars over the 2080 for the 2080 Ti seems like good value to me given the big increase in shader units and performance. I hope it's true.

 

[FloydCranks]

Imagine I just went mental I bought a 2080Ti.
I mustn't I mustn't. I don't need a new GPU. It's CPU time.

Same. Thinking 2080 [dreaming Ti] when I only got 4770K. I'm just getting underwhelmed again and again by marginal performance increase of cpu releases. Zen+ shows same single core perf in CB15 as haswell.

 

[sideways14a]

Odd that the 2080ti is there, thats not normal nvidia release practise.
Wonder why they are dong that.

 

[ltron]

Odd that the 2080ti is there, thats not normal nvidia release practise.
Wonder why they are dong that.

Maybe because 7nm is out next year and they could have an entirely new range of cards based on this out by then. Or AMD may be very competitive on 7nm next year and Nvidia knows it.

Also, if there is nothing to tempt 1080 Ti owners to upgrade to then they'll be stuck without ray tracing and this will hamper the adoption.

 

[jigger]

I didn't - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/27903763/

You're imping I said something I didn't. People used to get banned for that.

 

[jigger]

Odd that the 2080ti is there, thats not normal nvidia release practise.
Wonder why they are dong that.

It seems like the Ti has dropped down a class.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

The cost is the same. TBH it probably cost more to disable the chips.

No it would'nt.

The bigger the chip the less you can fit on a silicon slice which is a fixed cost, The bigger the chip the greater the chance of a defect and so even less of those die can be fully enabled. To off set the cost of some of the dies being defective they use them for cut down part.

 

[bru]

Where's that chart from? An extra $200 dollars over the 2080 for the 2080 Ti seems like good value to me given the big increase in shader units and performance. I hope it's true.

Sorry I should have said it was from the Wccftech link that Athlonxp1800 posted earlier.

 

[beany_bot]

Odd that the 2080ti is there, thats not normal nvidia release practise.
Wonder why they are dong that.

It will be cut down. They have been doing that since around 700 sieries. Expect:

Die size

2070=1060
2080=1070
2080Ti=1080
Titan RTX=1080Ti

Gives them more room to milk with more "top end cards"

 

[jigger]

No it would'nt.

The bigger the chip the less you can fit on a silicon slice which is a fixed cost, The bigger the chip the greater the chance of a defect and so even less of those die can be fully enabled. To off set the cost of some of the dies being defective they use them for cut down part.

If the chip is cut down it's the same and cost to produce as the full chip. You then have the added cost of disabling a portion.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

How is the Vega64 competitive against the 1080Ti? I assume you are talking purely on price (forgetting that a handful of months ago they were dearer than the Ti)

All you have to do is check the 3Dmark scores on page 2 and 3 of this very forum.

In power consumption and die size

 

[razorpakk]

Same. Thinking 2080 [dreaming Ti] when I only got 4770K. I'm just getting underwhelmed again and again by marginal performance increase of cpu releases. Zen+ shows same single core perf in CB15 as haswell.

Every time I desire a new platform (most days) I check pages like this and realise upgrading (for gaming) is pointless. The IPC improvement (last graph) is almost sad.

 

[Legend]

It will be cut down. They have been doing that since around 700 sieries. Expect:

Die size

2070=1060
2080=1070
2080Ti=1080
Titan RTX=1080Ti

Gives them more room to milk with more "top end cards"

Titan has always stood apart, super expensive and not really considered by most 'normal' folk... heck, even the Ti is out of the price range for many. I don't think the 2080Ti is going to be a slouch, not even close... the question is what it is priced at. If they do release/announce at the same time, it's probably more suggestive of them having something else up their sleeve in 6-12 months time. Who knows what they've got cooking behind closed doors... their R&D budget is insane, so 7nm could be much closer than we think. A lot of people didn't even expect these cards to be Turing, so they're clearly delivering above and beyond... but they won't be doing so out of the kindness of their own hearts lol!

 

[5punk3monk3y]

In power consumption and die size

Are you sure? I'm sure that the Vega uses more power than the Ti .

 

[bru]

It will be cut down. They have been doing that since around 700 sieries. Expect:

Die size

2070=1060
2080=1070
2080Ti=1080
Titan RTX=1080Ti

Gives them more room to milk with more "top end cards"

That makes no sense, as for die sizes surely you would get at least two cards from each die.

2070=TU104
2080=TU104
2080Ti=TU102
Titan RTX=TU102

The above leaked card breakdown shots suggest that the TU104 is visibly bigger than the 1080 die GP 104 die.​

 

[KillBoY_UK]

If the chip is cut down it's the same and cost to produce as the full chip. You then have the added cost of disabling a portion.

If you have less chips to sell from a fixed cost said chips are going to cost more...

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Amazing if they do announce 2080Ti at same time... that's rather unprecedented but excellent if true.

3 cards should be

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So assuming the GTX2080TI has an over 500MM2 larger tier chip,this will be the first time in a long time Nvidia is launching a new range with a larger chip.

Unless OFC it isn't!!

 

[Legend]

Are these cards looking bigger than the 1080Ti... i.e longer? I can't tell.

 

[Nikumba]

Will hold off and wait to see what reviews are like and see what it does to the 1080ti and Vega64 market first