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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

melmac said:
It would be really strange if they announce the Ti card at the same time as the other cards. The strategy they have at the moment is perfect because people now buy twice in the same generation and pay over the odds for the x80 card on release.

If true, I wonder what it means? Are you right that 7nm cards are coming early next year? Or has the Ti card become the new top consumer grade card and will be priced like the Titan cards were. With the Titan cards moving into the prosumer market.
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I never said 7nm will be coming out early next year. But relative to how long we have had to wait from 16nm to 12nm or from 28nm to 16nm it is not that far away.

They have all the information and if the Ti comes out early on this occasion, it is likely because that is the best strategy for them on this occasion.
 
jigger said:
I seem to remember you turned down that bet pretty sharpish ;) But who are "we" ?
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Remind me. You know, the ones that regularly see you talking about how expensive things are. The ones that see you claiming to be an enthusiast but then we see your sig....
 
melmac said:
Nope, List them. When did the last generational update happen? What changes occurred?
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In the time since the launch of the 1000 cards we could have almost had three generations of cards. 75% performance gain over this time frame is not that much to expect. Savy?
 
gavinh87 said:
Remind me. You know, the ones that regularly see you talking about how expensive things are. The ones that see you claiming to be an enthusiast but then we see your sig....
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You wanted to make a bet that we wouldn't see 32 core desktop chips from AMD this year :p It wasn't much of a bet. A very small amount.
 
jigger said:
In the time since the launch of the 1000 cards we could have almost had three generations of cards. 75% performance gain over this time frame is not that much to expect. Savy?
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AMD went from 480 to 580, did we get 25% increase? Also where is the 680 that should be here by now?

That is not how it works and you know it ;)
 
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TNA said:
I never said 7nm will be coming out early next year. But relative to how long we have had to wait from 16nm to 12nm or from 28nm to 16nm it is not that far away.

They have all the information and if the Ti comes out early on this occasion, it is likely because that is the best strategy for them on this occasion.
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I only mentioned early next year based on the usual time frame between releasing the x80 card then releasing the x80ti card. If the 7nm cards come any later then they are losing the milking strategy they have now for nothing.
 
melmac said:
I only mentioned early next year based on the usual time frame between releasing the x80 card then releasing the x80ti card. If the 7nm cards come any later then they are losing the milking strategy they have now for nothing.
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Maybe. But perhaps they have leveled up their milking strategy which is not quite apparent yet? :p
 
Ok these are ray tracing cards. Which means you need driver support to keep the RTX line up to date.
If one were to go with a 1080 TI now how much driver support would one get in 2019? I have to assume that most, if not all Nvidia resources are going to improve, maintain, balance and optimize RTX line up.

How will Pascal survive moving forward with driver support? This doesn't look the same going from Maxwell to Pascal. Which is why Maxwell has done so well today.

How much time do you think we have before Maxwell driver support is now regulated to a slower release schedule?
 
Glanza said:
Have Nvidia ever done that? Would be a really odd choice considering most people are on either the normal or ti version cycle for upgrading.
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They never did a Titan either until they did. Worked out well for them. We simply don't know. We should not assume what is best for them as we do not have the relevant data to make that call.
 
TNA said:
They never did a Titan either until they did. Worked out well for them. We simply don't know. We should not assume what is best for them as we do not have the relevant data to make that call.
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They released there big chip first upto and including Fermi, Kepler and after is when it all changed
 
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