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Can the US franchise of Toms Hardware now be trusted?

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The US franchise of Toms Hardware recently published an article entitled "just Buy it" rather bizarrely advising their readers to just go out and buy nVidia's new cards before they have been tested, clearly shilling on behalf of nVidia.

Gamers Nexus has been contacted by other franchise holders and editors complaining they felt this damaged the reputation of the brand overall and with it their franchise.

Others like the German franchise want it made public that they made reviews on AMD's RX Vega for the US franchise that never got published, other franchises like this are afraid that AMD probably knowing what's going might become or are already unwilling to work with anyone from Toms Hardware.
Those other franchise holders are even being banned from the US forum voicing their concerns.

In the past couple of years AMD have been treated pretty badly by Toms Hardware, some of you may remember, for example making a massive issue about the fact that the RX 480 pulled more than 75 Watts out of the PICe and hyperbolical screaming this will destroy the motherboard, which is a complete nonsense and they ignored the PCIe only powered GTX 1050TI doing exactly the same thing in a previous review.

Personally i have thought Toms Hardware nVidia shills for a few years now, but at least i'm not alone in that thinking now and its not just Toms Hardware and its not just bias with one brand of GPU's.

https://youtu.be/ma1gh-21diQ?t=1m55s

Just Buy It: Why Nvidia RTX GPUs Are Worth the Money
 
humbug said:
In the past couple of years AMD have been treated pretty badly by Toms Hardware, some of you may remember, for example making a massive issue about the fact that the RX 480 pulled more than 75 Watts out of the PICe and hyperbolical screaming this will destroy the motherboard, which is a complete nonsense and they ignores the PCIe only powered GTX 1050TI doing exactly the same thing in a previous review.
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The differences was the RX480 continuously drawed over spec from the slot (AMD have also broke PCIE power connector recomenations in the past) while a 1050/1060 as a lot other cards do occasionally have a spike in power draw from the slot, which is a very different situation.

I do agree it was overblown, regardless it was quickly fixed by AMD without affecting performance to much so points to AMD there

Personally i do have a bit of a bias, i have thought Toms Hardware nVidia shills for a few years now, but at least i'm not alone in that thinking now and its not just Toms Hardware and its not just bias with one brand of GPU's
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You answered your own question there so whats the point of the thread if you admit your own bias and use the world shill (sigh)

Shill or not I stop reading there site years ago as the articles are few and far between, the quality is slow and the website is self (layout and number of adds) is utter garbage. The "just buy it" thing was a prime example of the level of quality drop to that of raving forum or redit post.

I moved over to the Likes of GamersNexus and abit of TPH, since the massive drop of quality from toms and to a lesser extent, Anandtech/Hardop etc but i still visit thouse sites from time to time.
 
You answered your own question
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I have i? you seem to agree with me so what exactly am i asking and what's my answer? it seems to me you know i'm right but don't like it and thought you'd have a bit of a dig at me in protest.

Just stick with the facts, don't make it personal. :rolleyes:

Too many angry ragers in this forum.
 
10-15 years ago it was my goto tech site, been steadily going downhill for a long time. Not just the quality of reviews/shillness but the whole site layout and adds too.
 
humbug said:
I have i?you seem to agree with me so what exactly am i asking and what's my answer? it seems to me you know i'm right but don't like it and thought you'd have a bit of a dig at me in protest.

Just stick with the facts, don't make it personal. :rolleyes:

Too many angry ragers in this forum.
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Where was the anger or me making it personal ? I agree with most of what you said but I had to pick you up on a couple of things. If point out a few issues I had with a public post is making it personal so be it lol.

Not like a PM'ed you with rage and insults, that would be personal

In short I addressed the content rather than the person, if you disagree with what I highlighted then a discussion should be have.
 
humbug said:
The US franchise of Toms Hardware recently published an article entitled "just Buy it" rather bizarrely advising their readers to just go out and buy nVidia's new cards before they have been tested, clearly shilling on behalf of nVidia.
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So have you pre-ordered a 2080ti because this website advised you too ?
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Where was the anger or me making it personal ? I agree with most of what you said but I had to pick you up on a couple of things. If point out a few issues I had with a public post is making it personal so be it lol.

Not like a PM'ed you with rage and insults, that would be personal

In short I addressed the content rather than the person, if you disagree with what I highlighted then a discussion should be have.
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No, this:

You answered your own question there so whats the point of the thread if you admit your own bias and use the world shill (sigh)
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Is an angry reaction.

chaparral said:
So have you pre-ordered a 2080ti because this website advised you too ?
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You too, you didn't need to read it if you didn't like what it inevitably was going to say.
 
Didn't they do a ryzen test that gave totally different (inferior) results to just about every other outlet?

Yeah I'd say they can't be trusted.
 
If your going to buy a website and turn it into a glorified PR machine masquerading as a legitimate source of unbiased information your may as well buy the biggest one on the web.

It's a shame really, Tomshardware was the go to place for honest reviews back in the day, things like makes sours all the other content as well as it can no longer be trusted.
 
Not looked at them in 10+ years, just lack the in-depth technical reviews.

I don't think this has much to do with Nvidia at all though. They have tried to become some spam site that doesn't really write reviews but posts junk that is trending on google searches so they can maximize site hits wih silly headlines and mindless reviews. Apparently a load of people have been quitting TH for the last 6-12 months due to the change in direction.
 
Agree with most of the posters above, their content has been crap for years. I think their target audience is similar to Linus Tech Tips so the content tends to be low-information and sensationalist whilst appealing to people who aren't very "techy" but are interested in gaming.
 
Agreed has been crap for some years now.

There are many many other reviewers and tech websites I read and more importantly trust.
 
I don't really trust any reviewer, website, You Tuber, completely. Always take any info that they give out with a pinch of salt.
 
They are part of the Purch group which also owns Anandtech and many other well known tech websites.

There also seems to a lot of internal issues at TH currently:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62951/internal-struggles-toms-hardware-go-public/index.html

What the hell happened? Tom's Hardware has changed in the Avram Piltch era. In recent months, some veteran staff have jumped ship and many others are desperately looking for a life raft before the full implementation of Tom's Hardware 2.0, a Google SEO driven site. These sites, like Tom's Guide, don't break new stories but rather identify trending topics and then quickly build content to match. Purch has an internal team scrubbing the internet each day that assigns stories to different teams inside the company. The Tom's Hardware 2.0 formula has not sat well with veteran journalists and editors that continued the twenty-two year legacy of Tom Pabst.

The first forward-facing look at the current internal struggles come from Igor Wallossek, editor-in chief of Tomshardware.de, a licensed spin-off of Tom's Hardware Germany. Igor, a 10-year veteran of Tom's Hardware, writes in his German response to the most recent controversy: "With this attitude, the interim editor-in-chief also contradicts my very personal work, since I am directly involved in the launch article. Who is to believe the hard-won results after so much advertising balsam? And hello? testing complex components requires more basic knowledge and expertise than the superficial clowning of notebooks and colorful Lego heaps.." - Translated.

The statement refers to Avram Piltich's editorial writing for Laptop Magazine, Tom's Guide, and Space.com where he wrote about mainstream topics like notebooks and Legos. Avram has never authored content that meets the high expectations of a Tom's Hardware journalist much less qualified to be the editor-in-chief under the former format. When Avram came to Tom's Hardware to transform it into a larger Tom's Guide filled with clickbait content, he started by writing the topics he understands, Legos and non-technical notebook editorials. The new direction and content didn't go over as well as similar articles at Tom's Guide and Space.com, both also owned by Purch - the owners of Tom's Hardware and Anandtech. Avram Piltch has doubled down on statements via his GeekinChief Twitter account, and Igor went nuclear in the Tom's Hardware forums with more claims of Avram's inexperience and even a breach of contract related to the German site's licensing. Both comments were scrubbed by forum moderators. Later in the day we had our second look at infighting at the media company. An ethical but disgruntled moderator enabled the posts again for public viewing before issuing a public statement and later resigning his position. We can only imagine what the C-Suite will be like in the Purch offices on Friday. We hear Future plc, the publishing company in the middle of acquiring Purch, comes to the office for the first time at the end of the week. In the press release announcing the acquisition, Future placed a strong emphasis on the reputation and technical detail from the flagship property, Tom's Hardware. The current leadership inside the company clearly no longer cares about the site's reputation and doesn't have the technical knowhow to publish highly technical content outside of a few writers that have remained only to to see the **** storm pass.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62951/internal-struggles-toms-hardware-go-public/index.html
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It seems the German version of the website is run by different people who thought differently about the article.

Also here is what the founder of Tom's Hardware has said:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6296...r-comments-rtx-just-buy-it-scandal/index.html

Thomas Pabst, founded of Tom's Hardware, spoke out publicly for the first time about the RTX "Just Buy It" article that ran last Friday on the site he founded. Tom has not been vocal about Tom's Hardware so this was unexpected : "In regards to the RTX scandal at Tom's Hardware, Pabst said: "You asked 'What happened, Tom? What has become of you?' Well, there's only one person who can answer that! Tom has become a daddy of two boys and doesn't have anything to do with Tom's Hardware anymore. So far so good". Pabst continued, pondering: "What does Tom think of the article you love so emphatically?" "Well, I'd say Tom would have been less kind than you have been with his assessment! It is ultimately ridiculous, it is indeed suicidal, and its conclusions are epically nonsensical. There is value in being an early adopter? Aren't we, who are impatiently into the latest tech, sorely aware of what we keep doing to ourselves when we purchase technology at high prices 'ahead of the curve'? It's maso-*******-chism!" "We make ourselves paying beta testers, and wait for software (and often other hardware) that will hopefully bless our brand new tech with the meaning and usefulness they simply do not have by the time of our premature purchase! There are no RTX games, but there is value in adopting Turing early, because current games might be faster than on our 1080ti SLI setup? Yes, this is madness, and good old Tom is scratching his head no less than you are, Steve! There's got to be value in masochism!"

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6296...r-comments-rtx-just-buy-it-scandal/index.html
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