It is for two reasons, firstly because their reference card doesn't use a reference cooler anymore. And secondly because the comparison is to a card costing nearly half the price, it should be able to pwn it regardless of what type of cooler it has.
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Poll: Who's Cancelled Their 2080** Pre Orders
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Just seen a few reviews, overall this basically sums it up for me from Bitwit on youtube:
Something shocking I saw one reviewer point out, the gap between the 1080ti and 2080ti is smaller than the gap between the 980ti and the 1080 (non-ti).
Put me in that camp, I only really cared about Ray-tracing, and extra performance in current games was a bonus. I have enough disposable income right now to afford the 2080ti and as a long time enthusiast of PC gaming I'm not going to hold off on buying into the biggest game changer since 1999 (hardware T&L). I've never been able to afford a major gamechanger on day one before and I'm not about to wish I had been like all the others just to save money I'll probably **** away on Nandos xD
I get this.
A few keep ramming home the same rhetoric price/performance/nvidia etc so should us who bought into the raytracing stop posting to allow the whiners to continue?
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Did not cancel and am happy enough with the reviews. From what i see the only negative thing about these GPU'S is the price, but that can be offset by selling your old card.
As an ex-AMD fanatic i decided to replace my liquid cooled V64 with a 2080 FE. I will sure miss the AMD Radeon software experience and all the manual tweaking it can offer plus the decent built in overlay but on the GPU department i think that AMD i just not delivering enough, shifting all their workforce to the upcoming PS5/Xbox Scarlet and leaving Radeon GPUs under-funded at a point where major features (DSBR, NGG fast path and Primitive Shaders) were broken/missing left me with a bitter taste.
Granted the early reviews are giving the 2080 a hard time due to a very small FPS lead on some titles and no performance improvement on others vs the 1080Ti, but it became clear when i saw the Wolfenstein 2 benchmarks and compared the specs of the 1080Ti and 2080 and immediatly understood what Nvidia (maybe?) wants to tell us: this card while having less ROPs, less CUDA cores and less TMUs is performing the same in general as the 1080Ti in today's games but performs MUCH better on a game that include a next-gen low level API like Vulkan.
Nvidia is therefore in IMO going full steam ahead on next level APIs compared to Maxwell/Pascal where only the 1080ti was showing good performance improvement with the newer APIs.
Of course there is also the DLSS part where AA becomes something not impacting in performance anymore compared to previous architectures and by the numbers of the games that are already gonna support it it doesnt look like it's that much complicated to implement for game devs.
These are my reasons for not cancelling my preorder and grabbing the 1080Ti. Plus the 2080 has a vastly improved architecture, better efficiency, and is more future proof. What people need to begin to understand is that FPS is not the sole factor that can improve ones gaming experience.
As an ex-AMD fanatic i decided to replace my liquid cooled V64 with a 2080 FE. I will sure miss the AMD Radeon software experience and all the manual tweaking it can offer plus the decent built in overlay but on the GPU department i think that AMD i just not delivering enough, shifting all their workforce to the upcoming PS5/Xbox Scarlet and leaving Radeon GPUs under-funded at a point where major features (DSBR, NGG fast path and Primitive Shaders) were broken/missing left me with a bitter taste.
Granted the early reviews are giving the 2080 a hard time due to a very small FPS lead on some titles and no performance improvement on others vs the 1080Ti, but it became clear when i saw the Wolfenstein 2 benchmarks and compared the specs of the 1080Ti and 2080 and immediatly understood what Nvidia (maybe?) wants to tell us: this card while having less ROPs, less CUDA cores and less TMUs is performing the same in general as the 1080Ti in today's games but performs MUCH better on a game that include a next-gen low level API like Vulkan.
Nvidia is therefore in IMO going full steam ahead on next level APIs compared to Maxwell/Pascal where only the 1080ti was showing good performance improvement with the newer APIs.
Of course there is also the DLSS part where AA becomes something not impacting in performance anymore compared to previous architectures and by the numbers of the games that are already gonna support it it doesnt look like it's that much complicated to implement for game devs.
These are my reasons for not cancelling my preorder and grabbing the 1080Ti. Plus the 2080 has a vastly improved architecture, better efficiency, and is more future proof. What people need to begin to understand is that FPS is not the sole factor that can improve ones gaming experience.
In this case may as well get orionx2 with 4 2080ti stock config ..
Where have you seen VR results?
TPU are comparing a throttling FE blower-style 1080 Ti at stock clocks with an open cooler FE 2080 that comes pre-overclocked. A complete nonsense of a comparison that shows nothing.First post in the review thread, 2080 section, tech power up, Wolfenstein 1440P. 123FPS vs 173FPS (or close to those figures).
Seems they perform better in DX12 and also in this case, Vulkan? It shows the 2080 has potential if (big if) future games play to the advantage(s) of the 20 series
But still isn't worth the price, not even close.
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Fair point although I wouldn't say it's nonsense - it's still factory vs factory. 40% is still a lot.It's still FE vs FE too. And the majority of buyers probably don't OC anyway. I don't bother overclocking GPU's personally and many benchers that do return to stock settings for actual gaming.
To me a FE 1080 Ti vs a FE 2080 is a still a fair comparison, blower or dual fan or whatever.
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£130 is not a lot of money.
But most people don't get FE cards. Its aftermarket vs aftermarket for the fairest comparison.
That will narrow the gap as the Pascal FE cards had relatively low clocks and poor cooling.
It is for no performance gain. And less Vram.
Now why don't you just stop spamming the boards with Pro NV rhetoric.
£130 is a lot of money to some people. Its blinkered to suggest otherwise.
What card you coming from?
It's not because of overclocking, it's because the 1080Ti FE throttles heavily under any sort of load.
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There's a potentially very large performance gain with DLSS. I also fail to see a scenario where 3GB Vram makes a difference as barely any games right now use more than 8GB even with 4k textures.
As for your last snide remark. I wasn't aware that people who are happy with the reviews and actually looking forward to receiving their preorder are not entitled to an opinion here.
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Think I'm out after hours of reading today, it's on average at 25-35% increase at 1440p (I run 3440*1440) over a 1080ti, for me on an AIO Xp that's realistically a 15-25% and even though I can sell my Xp it's still not worth the £500 I'd have to put down for that IMO.
If it a few months time, BF5 runs 100fps with full Ray tracing effects turned on and drivers bring more FPS I'll buy one at this point. But for now I can only see the benifits of this card making my favourate games unplayable. I'd rather just not have the option and the money in my bank for something else.
If it a few months time, BF5 runs 100fps with full Ray tracing effects turned on and drivers bring more FPS I'll buy one at this point. But for now I can only see the benifits of this card making my favourate games unplayable. I'd rather just not have the option and the money in my bank for something else.
Looks like lots of 2080s in stock. Guess I was wrong.
I think they'll both do okay at the non-FE price.