Been sold a mined on graphics card on the bay
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I have always been totally honest about what I sell on Ebay, saying everything a buyer might want to know about the use and condition of the item.
When I come to sell my 1080ti I am not going to mention that it has spent all its life mining when I am not gaming on it. Its performance has not decreased at all (it's stayed cooler under with an EK block on it than if had not been mined with the fans on). If a vendor says it has not been mined on there is no way a buyer can know if that is true or not.
If the GPU was underperforming before I sold it I would certainly mention that, because the buyer would find that, and I do genuinely want buyers to be satisfied.
Even if the vendor says it has been mined on and you find it underperforms, you can not be sure the mining is the cause of that underperformance.
When I come to sell my 1080ti I am not going to mention that it has spent all its life mining when I am not gaming on it. Its performance has not decreased at all (it's stayed cooler under with an EK block on it than if had not been mined with the fans on). If a vendor says it has not been mined on there is no way a buyer can know if that is true or not.
If the GPU was underperforming before I sold it I would certainly mention that, because the buyer would find that, and I do genuinely want buyers to be satisfied.
Even if the vendor says it has been mined on and you find it underperforms, you can not be sure the mining is the cause of that underperformance.
The seller can state all they want about not paying for postage costs to return, but THEY will be liable for postage costs for any return. I would personally return if I wasn't 100% happy with the purchase, although I know there might be suggestions (as noted here) to try first.
That message from the seller annoys me though.
coal dust in the fan.
Don't worry, I got itCard named Morris?
Why they seem quite reasonable..... The item appears as described and given the confusing nature of the OP's post in might be a 'Picnic' problem and not an issue with the goods supplied......
Do people actually still bench systems and 3dMark score? How pathetically early 2000's of you all. I remember @Scrutinize used to give me his Dhrystone and Whetstone stats, but then he did think it was pronounced "Wheat" stone. 
It's passive aggressive. I've just sold some things on eBay and would never speak to a buyer like that. If the description wasn't complete then that's on the seller, not the buyer. Either way the rules state seller pays for the return postage. They don't get to opt out of that.
The seller is probably being like that because this is a case of buyer's remorse, where the buyer has an 'issue' and instead of working through it they just want their money back.
We don't know what was said to the seller either.
We don't know what was said to the seller either.
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If the card has been overclocked (which he implies) and this hasn't been mentioned on the listing, then I see that as enough of a reason to warrant a return.
Depends on what was in the original advert....
You don't have the same rights with private sales as you do buying from a business (with good reason)
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Mining on a GPU does not lower/change performance of the cards.
Mining can in theory potentially shortens the life of a card, but actuallfrom experience, mining on a GPU doesn't usually cause that to happen.
Mining can in theory potentially shortens the life of a card, but actuallfrom experience, mining on a GPU doesn't usually cause that to happen.
The buyer hasn't shown the card is damaged or faulty. Unless the buyer has some proof of it then it's short of legs to stand on. The card was sold as used.
Fair enough and interesting to know. I suspect that most will argue something as faulty or not as described in that case anyway. And I still don't like that seller response
That said there is a tendency on this forum to sometimes assume all people returning stuff are acting scummy, or up to no good. And life isn't always clear like that.
One time I sold a arcade stick (Madcatz TE2) to someone who instigated a returns process. They couldn't get the item to work with their PC and I knew it wasn't faulty, so I accepted the return and it forced me pretty much to issue a returns label which I had to send. Upon receipt of the stick back a day or two later (which was still in immaculate condition) it turns out the buyer had personally paid for c.£14-16 postage (via ParcelForce) and wouldn't accept my offers to even partially refund postage. Got into a conversation afterwards where they admitted it was probably their PC setup and for me worked out well because I realised I actually regretted selling the stick.
Anyway apologies, getting slightly aside from the advice on this specific item.
It's called being polite and being decent to others, irrespective of the issue at hand. That message is pretty bad, even if the buyer is at fault (fully or partially) imo. On the other point I do accept that their may be scenarios in where buyers pays postage, and it's not 100% as I may have given the impression. Again depends what was in the advert.
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the lack of any real detail from the OP makes me think there is something else going on or the OP is not telling us something.
It's a bit douchy saying it's brand-new but run ragged for 9 weeks probably equivalent to a years normal gaming for most people 
If you attribute the word mined to a gfx card you lose about 50% resale value instantly.
Isn't this all part of the game though?fobbing off old heavily used cards as high as possible is what bedroom mines bank on as part of the profit.
If you attribute the word mined to a gfx card you lose about 50% resale value instantly.
Isn't this all part of the game though?fobbing off old heavily used cards as high as possible is what bedroom mines bank on as part of the profit.
It's a bit douchy saying it's brand-new but run ragged for 9 weeks probably equivalent to a years normal gaming for most people
If you attribute the word mined to a gfx card you lose about 50% resale value instantly.
Isn't this all part of the game though?fobbing off old heavily used cards as high as possible is what bedroom mines bank on as part of the profit.
I don't think the seller did say it's brand new, he described it "as new" in "perfect condition". I'd have done exactly the same.