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If cannabis is legalised it won't stop the usual people from selling it, untaxed. They will already be growing it, they will probably carry on as before. Unless legalisation reduces the price, which I doubt as it would be taxed it the hilt. I guess it would make it better for those who want to grow it themselves but don't want to risk going to gaol.
Anecdotal reports from Canada suggestiing it's a little cheaper than the black market stuff
 
In the UK though most is grown indoors in urban setrings which means short times and short hight are key which means we pretty much only get indica here very strong very "****" you out stuff unlike the USA which mostly has the laughy giggly sativa strains because they have the space and time.

The culture for cannabis in the UK amongst buyers is then want what will borderline knock them out with the least amount used.

Yes.

You seem to know what you are talking about, my experiences reflect exactly this. It's funny watchign the new when they talk about it being imported, just shows you the authorities really have no idea.

I would also further that and go as far as to say the so called "experts" really dont either. I am not completely denying the fact there (may) be links to mental health risks. But honestly, how can these experts have a clue what they are talking about?

Unless they have personally experienced the affects, in which case, if that is ever admitted, their work would be dismissed anyway.

But people will be sheepal.
 
Yes.

You seem to know what you are talking about, my experiences reflect exactly this. It's funny watchign the new when they talk about it being imported, just shows you the authorities really have no idea.

I would also further that and go as far as to say the so called "experts" really dont either. I am not completely denying the fact there (may) be links to mental health risks. But honestly, how can these experts have a clue what they are talking about?

Unless they have personally experienced the affects, in which case, if that is ever admitted, their work would be dismissed anyway.

But people will be sheepal.


Well unlike most I am open minded and by that I mean I can see the negative sides of things I enjoy.

I've been the teenage/young stoner going on about how help is amazing it will solve everything its a miricle plant no downsides etc.

I've also grown up I've been through depression and mh issues (I dont think the drugs caused them but they didn't help) I've abused substances to cope and to escape.

I've been the stoner who sits and chain smokes one after another all day and night. I've seen grows I've helped set them up.

I've seen the effect it has on people, seriously either be sober or set a webcam up out of sight and mind and forget about it when you and your friends have one of those "'deep" stoner nights and you'll realise your pe4sp3ctive is screwed. Most is science and short answers nothing particularly interesting and certainly not deep.

It's a drug its a fun high but it's not the stuff from limitless making you a super genius it makes you slow and boring except to stoned people.

Same as drunks and coke heads are amazing fun to each other but loud and annoying to sober people. People on E are amazingly in touch with thier feelings and full of love till your sober and you can see its all bs that's gone the next day

Drugs are like cakes and biscuits, fun but let's not pretend they're good for us or soemthing we should be doing to excess
 
I have smoked some serious amounts of cannabis in my time, oil, resin, hash, skunk the lot never done me any harm.

I don't touch it anymore as it become boring and mundane in the end, same **** different day so to say.

But I do agree with legalization as it will get the rats off the streets and smash criminal gangs dealing with cannabis in one go.
The government is to thick to see that aspect of legalization and the profit in tax that could be gained.
 
I think the sooner we legalise it the better.

"Ninety five tonnes of marijuana was produced in the UK in 2016 for medicinal and scientific use, accounting for 44.9 per cent of the world total, its International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) found.

The UK is also the largest exporter of the drug, with 2.1 tonnes exported in 2016 – roughly 70 per cent of the world’s total"

The above is from article , its crazy you get busted for growing a plant yourself, but the government can grow Ninety Five tonnes and be the worlds largest exporter too, what a weird world we live in.
 
Never got on with the stuff myself, but I think it should be legalised; also that it's only a matter of time.

Like it or not it's not going to be legal with the current generation of MPs... but future generations might see things differently.
 
Growing and exporting for scientific and medical purposes is pretty far removed from John who lives around the corner growing it for personal use (and to sell to his mates).

But the optics are clearly there, rather obtusely so in how as long as you're a politicians familiar/acquaintance/family member, you can do whatever the hell you like while your hypocritical politician friend/family can tell the public that wasting billions on ******* stoners is worthwhile.

A lot of police forces have frankly stopped bothering with it by the looks of things, it's untenable for a public office to be basically breaking the law when they're meant to uphold it because of how meaningless the whole effort is.
 
You really contradict yourself here quite badly.


For one "the herb" csnt induce or cause schizophrenia but you don't refute this you jist say schizophrenics may self medicate.
Me saying cannabis cant be the cause of schizophrenia has hot NOTHING to do with whether schizophrenics may self medicate. How on earth is that a contradiction lol?

Your style of argument is indicative of you having some underlying issues. You latch onto your imagined "contradictions" (even where none explicitly exist) instead of tackling the point being made.

Also I didn't even "say schizophrenics may self medicate". If you know you're shizo and you're self medicating with weed that's just a completely separate thing lol. If you're going to point out some contraction at least make sure I actually said BOTH things which you think are directly conflicting and provide the literal quotes.

It seems as if you have no idea what a contradiction is.

Then you go on to say it "opens your mind and help you think deep and clear" (sweet Lord that's some ******** eh?) So it radically alters the way your brain operates but you claim it can't possibly change the way your brain operates

Most human brains aren't two dimensional, weed isn't some coin where one side is a great high and the other side is complete and utter brain damage. Just because weed has a psychoactive effect doesn't suddenly mean it causes schizophrenia. There are a multitude of factors including lots of TIME which affect someone's development of schizophrenia.

For somone who constantly claims to be a hsrdman gangster wannabe you seem to have never been to a council estate at night.

I constantly claim to be a hardman ganster? Not once have I claimed to be a "hardman gangster" lmao whatever the heck that is.

It appears as if you have some underlying issues here, do you even really know any real facts about cannabis or are you here to just complain about me personally?


Also the whole "it's only positive" it's medicine is again a rather dumb contradiction if it's powerful enough to alter the way your body or disease works it has side effects there is no substance at all that is just a wonder drug that does nothing bad. Because if it's affecting your ill body that kuch its going to affect a healthy body

You seem to be assuming everyone who enjoys cannabis, does so in a way which is akin to a total alcoholic enjoying alcohol. AGAIN such two dimensional thinking.

You can enjoy cannabis without making yourself go absolutely psychotic you know.

In the UK though most is grown indoors in urban setrings which means short times and short hight are key which means we pretty much only get indica here very strong very "****" you out stuff unlike the USA which mostly has the laughy giggly sativa strains because they have the space and time.
This has gotta be the wrongest weed related post I've ever seen uttered.

I'd love to know the particular names of these indica strains you think are flooding the UK streets.

Because the three most famous, oldest and trusted strains in London; Amnesia, Lemon and Silver Haze, are ALL SATIVAS LMAO. :D

The ONLY indica I can think of is blue cheese, and it's not highly demanded.

Heck most the US type "kushes", and those grown for high CBD medicine are indica lmao (plus some hybrids)

https://www.leafly.com/search?q=kush - it's all either hybrid or indica lol. Type in Haze and it's all sativa.

Haha you say this like in the UK you know what the **** your getting.


Oh look here's a good one.

Didn't you just literally say UK weed is indica?

If you don't know what you're getting, how do you know you're getting indica?

From the article you linked

This is saying in plain English that there is a link between cannabis and developing psychiatric conditions, therefore link.

Even your second sentence is saying that there is a link!

The article even warns young people who have family history of mental illness not to take cannabis. It doesn't warn them to avoid water!

Did you read the last 6 words of your quotation? It reads "in individuals who are most susceptible".
 
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Given that weed is supposed to mellow you out, it's not without irony that the weed threads tend to get very heated and antagonistic :p
 
.there are roadside tests now like the brethalizer for alcohol.

So for on-site unlike alcohol you don't naturally have a bit of a level so a positive test would be bye bye

It’s not that simple.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4802612

That might work on a job site, but it’ll be interesting to see if it’s ever used at the roadside because it takes too long. So far it seems like a modified sobriety test is going to be used by police (walking a line etc) instead.

But the optics are clearly there, rather obtusely so in how as long as you're a politicians familiar/acquaintance/family member, you can do whatever the hell you like while your hypocritical politician friend/family can tell the public that wasting billions on ******* stoners is worthwhile.

A lot of police forces have frankly stopped bothering with it by the looks of things, it's untenable for a public office to be basically breaking the law when they're meant to uphold it because of how meaningless the whole effort is.

You c an almost certainly buy a stake in many of those companies as a private individual - they’re probably on the stock market.

There’s a big difference between using it “neat” as an individual and medical companies growing and processing it into prescription drugs. Where do you think morphing comes from? Someone has to grow the poppies, and it’s not coming from some random grower in Afghanistan.
 
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There are loads of health benefits from cannabinoids but also issues of addiction. While allegedly not a physical one like with heroine but very real mental ones. I have a friend who smokes a couple of ounces a month. Spends about a third of his wages on it. That is most definitely a problem. He can't spend an evening without a smoke.


Physical is the only one that matters. YOu can get mentally addicted to literally anything at all. Some people are addicted to food, others alcohol, some weed, some online gaming, some minecraft, others are addicted to working out, etc.

Personal inability to control yourself or over reliance on one activity is not something we can regulate. Physical addition wise, weed is simply not addictive, it's not very dangerous and humans and animals have been drinking/eating foods that make them drunk/high since time began. Frankly an ability to unwind and de-stress is incredibly important. Some people find that exercising is best for stress, others partying, others a good book, others drink and others smoke. What works for you works for you and the entire concept of it being banned was mostly a combination of puritanical nonsense and market competition. Cotton industry in particular didn't want competition with the hemp industry so raged and campaigned for weed to be banned thereby hugely damaging the hemp industry which was gaining strength.

THere was no reason to ever make weed illegal and no reason to not undo something that made no sense when the benefits are huge. Less money for gangs leads longer term to.... less gang members. Making weed legal will immediately lead to increased GDP, increased taxes generated and increased safety for those that choose to smoke weed as well as the thousands upon thousands of jobs it will create, again all of which will pay tax.

There is no downside at all, there are only upsides.

Mental addiction isn't an argument against it, in fact if anything including a law such that everyone who owns a card has to be registered with a network of stores and can only buy X amount a month would make mental addiction harder to begin. However again we can get addicted to anything, that doesn't make the thing you get addicted too bad. But if your friend is addicted to weed which is an illegal substance it makes getting help getting out of that situation harder because he would have to admit to doing something illegal to get help. Make it legal, then you can ask for help for your friend, win win.
 
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