Magna Carta theft attempt

asim18 · 27 Oct 2018 at 00:33

Werewolf said:
think idiot who beleives a load of mumbo jumbo about how you have multiple identities and the state tries to own you by having your legal identity which is denoted by the fact that things like birth certificates have the name in capitols (nothing to do with the fact it's easier to read especially when done on mechanical typewriters etc), and that the courts are in fact admiralty ones and have no jurisdiction over someone who is special and knows their rights - you know it's an admiralty court because they refer to the "dock".

Basically a bunch of easily led numpties who are often desperate and willing to grasp ad any straw (a lot of "freemen" types seem to target people who are in debt etc).

Isn't everything you've described actually happening? You've just explained one of the foundations of how individuals are tied into the current socioeconomic system yet you call it mumbo jumbo. Things like birth certificates are extremely important, that are not just a certificate that some guy was born, think of everything a birth certificate lets you do, it's one of the basic things which allows everything to be enforced, it's what allows things like taxes and everything to be enforced, things like the fact that 25% of ALL trade goes to one organisation. No one is free, even these freemen or whatever.

Werewolf · 27 Oct 2018 at 00:35

asim18 said:
Isn't everything you've described actually happening? You've just explained one of the foundations of how individuals are tied into the current socioeconomic system yet you call it mumbo jumbo. Things like birth certificates are extremely important, that are not just a certificate that some guy was born, think of everything a birth certificate lets you do, it's one of the basic things which allows everything to be enforced, it's what allows things like taxes and everything to be enforced, things like the fact that 25% of ALL trade goes to one organisation. No one is free, even these freemen or whatever.

^^^

FortuitousFluke · 27 Oct 2018 at 00:51

Werewolf said:
^^^

Is this the safe word? Is it time for asim's intervention now?

asim18 · 27 Oct 2018 at 00:55

So are you saying someone can simply leave the current socioeconomic system by tearing up their birth certificates and passports?

Documents are a fundamental thing lol they are holding everything together.

Sankari · 27 Oct 2018 at 02:53

Malevolence said:
A what now?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land

Sankari · 27 Oct 2018 at 03:39

dowie said:
People like this guy, after contact with some freeman of the land types he apparently decided he'd paid his bank "enough" (while paying an interest only mortgage and not the endowment) and was upset when they came and repossessed his house - he's bit of a Jeremy Corbyn type, to the naive he comes across as friendly, polite, sincere etc.. but is really just a complete and utter numpty. Even after all his freeman stuff didn't save his house rather than realising it was all nonsense he seems to have doubled down and is promoting a new movement:

https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk/

2. An immediate and outright end to all forms of Austerity, Poverty and Debt Misery

This will be done by reinstating the common sense fiscal process known as Sovereign National Credit whereby HM Treasury creates and issues all the money needed to finance our nation’s needs, security and prosperity.

This is done by creating debt-free and interest-free money that is based entirely on the wealth and labour potential (creativity) of our country. This will involve restoring the 1914 Treasury-issued Bradbury Pound which prevented a financial collapse at the outbreak of the First World War.

To support this, the Chartists will be making a full exposure of the fraudulent activities of the Bank for International Settlements and its debt-creating central banking system, which includes the Bank of England.

The restoration of Sovereign National Credit will also lead to an end to all forms of Direct Taxation (including Income Tax and Council Tax) whilst guaranteeing a permanent and adequate funding arrangement for the NHS and Social Welfare thus ensuring the long-term and unstinting care of the vulnerable and elderly in our society.

Hyperinflation, here we come!

5. The shutting down of the corporate Roman Civil Legislative/Regulatory System that unlawfully controls all of us by fraud, deception and entrapment

This will be done by alerting everyone to the alien and parallel legislative/regulatory system that appears to have evolved around the setting up of Cestui Que Vie Trusts and the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) which sees ‘Legal Fictions’ or ‘Strawmen’ created when our parents are compelled to register a birth and so receive a ‘Birth Certificate’ for their new-born.

This 'legal', but definitely not lawful system of deception and entrapment (which uses the deliberate and unfathomable language of ‘legalese’) is where you find that our 'Courts' of supposed Justice are actually listed by Dun and Bradstreet as corporations thus confirming that they are actually places of business and not justice.

Under this system of Maritime ‘law’ / UCC, you are considered guilty until proved innocent and politically approved judges decide your fate rather than juries of randomly selected people.

Using treason, stealth, deception and entrapment, this alien and parallel legislative system is transplanting our supreme and ancient Common Law Trial by Jury system of justice as confirmed by the 1215 Great Charter.

We will see the end of the treasonous acquiescence of the Judiciary, especially those ‘judges’ belonging to the so-called and completely bogus ‘Supreme Court’ that are being used to undertake provably fraudulent bankruptcies and bring about large-scale money-laundering.

And there it is, predictable as clockwork. Never mind that the UCC does not apply anywhere outside the USA, and has nothing to do with birth certificates or maritime law.

D.P. · 27 Oct 2018 at 05:55

Malevolence said:
A what now?

Dolph

Feek · 27 Oct 2018 at 10:10

robfosters said:
Probably drunk on some very runny mead.

Oh very good.

Orionaut · 27 Oct 2018 at 10:22

Fire_fly said:
I however am tad surprised that it was stored in a case that was so easy to break into. Normally you would put something as valuable as this would be in a case that would be able to stand up to quite a bit of abuse. Half inch think laminated glass etc.

The thing is. Items like this are not really "worth" anything.

They are, literally, priceless.

Their value is cultural and historical rather than in any financial sense.

(And whose to say it is the original that is on display anyway. Items like this are normally kept under highly controlled archival environments. Not just on display in a glass case)