Burglary & Home Security

This is not a 1920s novel. Burglars do not, and pretty much have done, pick locks. They either hop in through an opening that wasn't secured properly, or heave a heave object through a window. Again, "going equipped" is a serious thing, so burglars do not carry tools, except occasionally innocuous things like pliers. They find a brick/rock etc nearly, and use it to break a window. Patios doors are best becaue the law says that they have to made from toughened glass, so they craze over and are then easy to kick out and no chance of cuts, which would leave DNA behind.

It's also pretty easy to force out UPVC windows from what I hear, if you know the correct technique. Apparently certain types can just pop out :eek:

CCTV, whilst nice to have, is easily circumvented by wearing a hoodie. A dog is only good if it's a protective breed... unsure what a Labrador would do.

Having said that, the person you quoted wasn't really on about picking locks, it's easy to snap some locks with a strong pair of grips, apparently.
 
Years ago we had someone (i think) trying to break into the shed the dog went mental chased him, he tried to hop the fence and it collapsed... The dog proceeded to chase him over next doors garden as well .. I doubt the dog bit him but hopefully he got hurt when the fence collapsed

This is hart-warming :) sadly you may have been sued if the thief did get hurt :eek:
 
I live on a rather tough estate numerous break ins on my street in the years I’ve lived here.

Prior to fitting a large dog flap, I used to leave my back door propped open 24/7 in the summer especially.

Never had a problem with break ins.
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Maybe something to do with these two? :D
Am not interested in breaking into you're house am just going to take the two dogs...:p:D
 
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I went into the town centre (a good 20mins drive thankfully) to watch cinema with two mates; arrived around 8pm. Walking over the car park were 6 absolutely dodgy guys who looked like druggies. They were eye balling every car, going up to the windows, peering in, then trying the door handles. I phoned 101 let them know, they thanked me etc.

We exited the cinema at 11pm and 3 of the original 6 were still there, doing exactly the same thing over and over. Several cars had broken rear windows and one had a passenger side window broken from what we saw walking back to our car (heart in mouth). Fact is, this happens everywhere, under our noses, and people are afraid of challenging it incase the guys are tooled up. We decided to phone 101 as two of our group were drunk, else we may have challenged them.

Security is much of a muchness these days; what you are paying for is noise-level required to break-in, inconvenience, risk and time. You'll never stop someone determined from gaining access. Sadly, people ignore alarms, loud noises and even unusual people on someone else's land in some weird lassez-faire attitude similar to bystander apathy.
 
I went into the town centre (a good 20mins drive thankfully) to watch cinema with two mates; arrived around 8pm. Walking over the car park were 6 absolutely dodgy guys who looked like druggies. They were eye balling every car, going up to the windows, peering in, then trying the door handles. I phoned 101 let them know, they thanked me etc.

We exited the cinema at 11pm and 3 of the original 6 were still there, doing exactly the same thing over and over. Several cars had broken rear windows and one had a passenger side window broken from what we saw walking back to our car (heart in mouth). Fact is, this happens everywhere, under our noses, and people are afraid of challenging it incase the guys are tooled up. We decided to phone 101 as two of our group were drunk, else we may have challenged them.

Security is much of a muchness these days; what you are paying for is noise-level required to break-in, inconvenience, risk and time. You'll never stop someone determined from gaining access. Sadly, people ignore alarms, loud noises and even unusual people on someone else's land in some weird lassez-faire attitude similar to bystander apathy.


Why didn't you ring 999 the first time! And then after coming back and it still happening with broken windows etc you still rang 101 again!
 
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Why didn't you ring 999 the first time! Ans then after coming back and seeing it still happening with break windows etc you still rang 101 again!

Clearly you haven't tried ringing 999 on a saturday night in Middlesbrough complaining about some suspicious guys walking around in the town centre?
 
not everyone locks their doors around here but coming from west yorkshire i do. not many people on my hillside and maybe 10 cars a day come past so strangers stand out
 
Here's some simple ideas that would prevent most of the common methods of entry:

- Anti-snap lock cylinders on all doors. £40/door & you can fit yourself
- Anti-jimmy flip locks on top/bottom of patio door - £20 & you can fit yourself
- Security film on all downstairs windows & door glass. Ideally applied while internal beading snapped out to conceal the edge. Probably against building regs but it's your house. Decent film £100'ish in materials for an average house. DIY'abble
 
This is not a 1920s novel. Burglars do not, and pretty much have done, pick locks. They either hop in through an opening that wasn't secured properly, or heave a heave object through a window. Again, "going equipped" is a serious thing, so burglars do not carry tools, except occasionally innocuous things like pliers.

They don't need to pick now when they can snap the lock, or use a bump key and be in within 10 seconds. Anti-bump locks are usually anti-pick by design anyways, so no I don't think there's scores of burglars out there picking locks, but if you're happy to have lower security locks on your house when there are alternatives out there, that's your call. You can snap a lock easily with a pair of pliers as well.
 
dogs are a good deteriant but if people want in they will give them dosed meat or even harm them. ideally make it as hard to get in as possible and time consuming.those are the biggest things that stops burglars. time , risk , effort. if you been done 3 times so quickly maybe people even watching the house. try and work out where they are entering from and make it more unnaccessible. to risk doing it 3 times in a short period of time something must really be wrong.
 
Why didn't you ring 999 the first time! Ans then after coming back and seeing it still happening with break windows etc you still rang 101 again!

999 is for emergency only, that would not be deemed an emergency and you would been laughed out trying to call 999 these days with "suspicious behavior". The only time I have called 999 was when a guy was being beaten in the high-street, broad daylight in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. It took far far longer to get through than I expected and by the time I actually spoke to a police operator the bloke had had the absolute **** kicked out of him and the attackers long gone.

If you have problems go on your local police website, get the name of a senior officer and email them. I did this a few years ago after antisocial behavior was getting out of hand outside my flat. I was surprised to find that the chief invited me to the station to discuss it and get my feedback. I was shocked to find he was genuinely interested in the information I had as he seemed unaware of a trouble spot in the town that anyone with even the basic knowledge of the area would be aware of. This area was less than 0.5 miles from the actual police station too! This was in 2009 and even then community police knowledge had seemingly gone down the pan. But anyway they took on board my feedback and it actually got sorted out.
 
I live on a rather tough estate numerous break ins on my street in the years I’ve lived here.

Prior to fitting a large dog flap, I used to leave my back door propped open 24/7 in the summer especially.

Never had a problem with break ins.
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Maybe something to do with these two? :D
Wouldn’t dream of it....

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Always alert, ready to defend me and our home..... :D

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I have fitted higher security door handles, and fitted anti-snap, anti-bump, and anti-pick eurocylinder locks to my house. The standard handles that come with most multipoint lock doors are made from shockingly thin metal and easily snapped with a set of pipe grips, which gives someone easier access to snap a regular eurocylinder lock, then all you need is a screwdriver to turn the cam in the lock and unlock the door, pretty quietly.

That's great an all but they'll just smash the glass in your door.

Laminate glass is the way to go, you need an axe/hammer to get through it and a fair amount of time.
 
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