UN Migration Pact - Criticising Migration = Hate Crime

Coincidence that now we are signed up we suddenly start to have an influx of asylum seekers coming across the channel?

Why aren't we taking them back to France?

Completely. As the compact is just a guide for countries to use when writing legislation, largely based on the laws already in force in the UK (and much of the developed world). It's changed nothing in the short time it has been in place (at least in the UK).
 
Very few of the migrants passing through Europe are genuine refugees. They are mostly opportunists and we can't accommodate everyone looking for free ****.

If they get picked up trying to cross the channel they should either be sent back to France or put on a plane and sent home.

Depends which situation you're looking at.

Most of the people crossing from North Africa across the med are indeed economic migrants. The traffickers are taking advantage of the mess that Libya is in right now to make more money by sending more people across.

Those that came to/through Greece were largely genuine refugees. The number that come that way has slowed to a trickle due to the increased stability in Syria.

Ironically those trying to cross the channel would probably have been dealt with before now if the EU system had been put in place to try and divvy out those that arrived in Europe. It never happened because countries like the UK refused to help countries like Greece and Italy (the main entry countries and those hit hardest in trying to deal with them).

EDIT: I'll rescind that last comment as it does not appear to be the usual groups around Calais.
 
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Ironically those trying to cross the channel would probably have been dealt with before now if the EU system had been put in place to try and divvy out those that arrived in Europe. It never happened because countries like the UK refused to help countries like Greece and Italy (the main entry countries and those hit hardest in trying to deal with them).

Yea because it's caused a load of social and crime issues for the countries which did take them in.
 
He’s right. That statement was Lolworthy. How can you possibly correlate a homeless person, or any of us for that matter, being part of the blame for sanctions against Iran?

Cumulative lack of action against a clearly pointless British Government acting well out of bounds of it's global reach just to suck US's long-johns dry. It's also the publics fault that the Austerity has continued. People have a vote and they dont bother actually using it, so it's on them.

Brexit has made it so much easier to make this argument, that y'all seem to hate and pass off as just "duh gubment's problem"
 
Cumulative lack of action against a clearly pointless British Government acting well out of bounds of it's global reach just to suck US's long-johns dry. It's also the publics fault that the Austerity has continued. People have a vote and they dont bother actually using it, so it's on them.
And exactly what “action” was we supposed to take?

People have a vote. If they didn’t vote Tory, what other alternatives are there? No other party would have done anything to avert what’s going on at the moment.

Ffs, stop blaming us and everyone here for the worlds problems. It’s getting so tiresome.
 
And exactly what “action” was we supposed to take?

People have a vote. If they didn’t vote Tory, what other alternatives are there? No other party would have done anything to avert what’s going on at the moment.

Ffs, stop blaming us and everyone here for the worlds problems. It’s getting so tiresome.
It's the homeless person on the streets fault, you know, the one that isn't eligible or registered to vote, it's their fault for becoming homeless in the first place when they should have been voting in an alternate government to stop sanctions on Iran.

I dunno why you even bother responding to him. Obviously doesn't exist in the same reality as normal people.
 
It's the homeless person on the streets fault, you know, the one that isn't eligible or registered to vote, it's their fault for becoming homeless in the first place when they should have been voting in an alternate government to stop sanctions on Iran.

I dunno why you even bother responding to him. Obviously doesn't exist in the same reality as normal people.

Are you suggesting it's not his fault for being homeless and not taking care of himself? I guess you don't agree with the Egyptian president talking about it being the refugees fault for not taking care of their own countries then?
 
Are you suggesting it's not his fault for being homeless and not taking care of himself? I guess you don't agree with the Egyptian president talking about it being the refugees fault for not taking care of their own countries then?
I don’t even know where to start with this :confused:
 
Are you suggesting it's not his fault for being homeless and not taking care of himself? I guess you don't agree with the Egyptian president talking about it being the refugees fault for not taking care of their own countries then?
Cant help everyone, some homeless choose to live the way they do, others run away from an abusive home life, for others it's drugs or some other substance abuse. It's not not possible for society to micromanage every single scenario, or help everyone, especially those who choose not to seek assistance.

Your post is also very strange.
 
Cant help everyone, some homeless choose to live the way they do, others run away from an abusive home life, for others it's drugs or some other substance abuse. It's not not possible for society to micromanage every single scenario, or help everyone, especially those who choose not to seek assistance.

Your post is also very strange.
We did take care of our country. We operated on a fuedal system for years, like the Middle East does now. But over time we evolved, got more civilised and became the society we are today.

Homelessness is an economic and social problem that exists in advanced societies. We’re not the only one, every developed country in the world has homelessness; UK, USA, Japan, Australia, homelessness exists across the world. homelessness and the middle East’s inability to evolve are two very different things indeed, and I don’t even know how the comparison came about.
 
I don’t even know where to start with this :confused:

Cant help everyone, some homeless choose to live the way they do, others run away from an abusive home life, for others it's drugs or some other substance abuse. It's not not possible for society to micromanage every single scenario, or help everyone, especially those who choose not to seek assistance.

Your post is also very strange.

The point I was alluding to is that I agree with you regarding the homeless person. There are lots of reasons for someone being on the street, just as there are lots of reasons for the state of countries refugees are coming from.

Quite a few people have agreed with the Egyptian president who is saying the state of the country is all their faults, which it clearly isn’t. It’s a lot more complex than that and it would be unfair to claim one is fully at fault while the other isn’t.
 
He’s right. That statement was Lolworthy. How can you possibly correlate a homeless person, or any of us for that matter, being part of the blame for sanctions against Iran?

Good luck with that. StriderX thinks brexiteers are going to go killing sprees the day after we leave the EU.
 
If they are in France, a safe country, why don’t they stay there? Why try and get to Britain?

Oh, I see. I was talking in general terms, including for example those leaving from Libya to Italy. In that case, I see your point. They may still be refugees but they have already reached a safe country.

Talk of firing on people is still wrong, though. Return them to France, arrest the traffickers.
 
Oh, I see. I was talking in general terms, including for example those leaving from Libya to Italy. In that case, I see your point. They may still be refugees but they have already reached a safe country.

Talk of firing on people is still wrong, though. Return them to France, arrest the traffickers.
As soon as they pass through multiple safe counties they are not refugees they are economic migrants (They aren't refugees if they come from Iran, even if the BBC tries to push that agenda, saying so doesn't make it so).
 
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