What is high mileage for a sports car?
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Is yours the one online at 127k?
I will admit when I spoke to Lamborghini I gave them a mileage limit of 15k with ideally a 10k target as it seems they become very hard to move on above 20k miles, crazy because the Huracan is an R8, it will happily reach 100k miles on the engine/drive train, you might go through a few dampers and if the CCM brakes fail change to steels or do so early on and put CCM back on when selling.
I admit I'd probably low ball a high miles Huracan, suspect trade prices would be 100-110k on a 40k plus miler, maybe advertise at 115-125k retail to see if anyone bites.
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BMW's are generally bullit proof on engine/drive train, though my mate with his M4 CS won't agree (spun a shell), but still, at 50-60k I'd not be scared however I'd be doing a full suspension refresh because at 60k miles most the bushes will have worn and check the dampers for any moist/mist or even leaks and springs for cracks.
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lexus's will easily do 500K if looked after and do long trips. best cars to buy are toyota or lexus for reliability long term.
8 years and 50K is IMO low mileage.
my Z4 is 16 years old and I would say is low mileage at 98K
as someone has already posted the price should reflect similarly aged and mileaged z4's. it doesn't matter if you come to sell it has 80K so long as you price it accordingly.
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Yeah true exactly, mine nearly spun a shell, my mates E92 M3 did spun a shell and my mates M4 CS motor destroyed itself, so actually maybe not so true.
People don't realise this. My car is on 205,000 miles and is 29 years old. When I bought it 2 years ago it was on 194,000 miles and had been in daily use since new, which averages out as just 7000 ish miles a year.
Yet most people would turn their nose up at it because of the mileage.
sold my 2011 Z4 35iS last march, 86000 miles or so, wasn't that hard to shift, got £12.6k privately for it.
maintenance added up a bit over the time I had it, but some of that was preventative. As said its a BMW, not a ferrari, so no reason its any less reliable than a 3 or 5 series.
maintenance added up a bit over the time I had it, but some of that was preventative. As said its a BMW, not a ferrari, so no reason its any less reliable than a 3 or 5 series.
How does an *average* of 4k per annum point you to believe that it's had a pampered life?? I know so many people who drive 1-2 miles to work a day and probably do an average of 4k miles a year. But this doesn't mean their cars somehow become cherished examples, afterall, the car gets subjected to high numbers of cold starts/stop start traffic/speed bumps and dodgy car parks.
The notion that A) low miles per year or B) averaging low miles out per year somehow means that the car is of better quality or of a higher standard is ridiculous. If a 3 year old car has done 60k miles - it has a high average miles per year, but i'm guessing this car which will have spent it's life on the motorway will be in a far better condition than a 3 year old car which has done 30k miles around town and on a cold engine.
Only in exceptional circumstances should the notion that miles per year be taken as anything more than guff, such as the above example - a lot of miles in on a relatively new car, aside from being anything like a police/rental/taxi could be indicative that the engine/suspension/brakes/bodywork have been put through the minimal amount of stress. Likewise, very low mileage on an old car, could be indicative of it being a garage queen which only was brought out on sunny days like most supercars are. Apart from these extremes, "10k average miles per year" means jack shizzle.
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Mileage is not a good measure of wear.
A 1 year old car can have 50k on it, where a single person has driven up and down the country each day. They get in the car by themselves (no wear on the other seats) and drive 200 miles without getting out mostly in the same gear on a hot engine without speed bumps or heavy brake use, and park in an place where it won't get bashed.
A car can have 50k on it full of school runs on a cold engine, kerbed wheels, a messy interior from badly behaved kids and the driver getting in and out every 5 miles (seat wear). There could be carpark dings, bumper scuffs and an overdue cambelt.
If the OP's car had been a 100k on it but had been owned from one owner from new and was pristine, with an owner that was able to provide answers on all technical questions then I'd still buy it.
A 1 year old car can have 50k on it, where a single person has driven up and down the country each day. They get in the car by themselves (no wear on the other seats) and drive 200 miles without getting out mostly in the same gear on a hot engine without speed bumps or heavy brake use, and park in an place where it won't get bashed.
A car can have 50k on it full of school runs on a cold engine, kerbed wheels, a messy interior from badly behaved kids and the driver getting in and out every 5 miles (seat wear). There could be carpark dings, bumper scuffs and an overdue cambelt.
If the OP's car had been a 100k on it but had been owned from one owner from new and was pristine, with an owner that was able to provide answers on all technical questions then I'd still buy it.
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Exactly.
It'd be very unlikely to be able to find 3 year old 50k mile car which has been used for school runs on a cold engine/kerbed wheels etc as it's generally impossible to do 50k miles a year unless on a motorway. However it would be much easier to find a 7 or 8 year old car which had been used for this, this would then give it a low "miles per year" of around 8k miles a year. Because it's had a lower "annual mileage" than the 1 year old motorway car with 50k on the clock, does that somehow mean it's a cherished example in which the owner has pampered it daily? Of course not.
The context of this thread is Sports cars, I'd guess one thats only done 4k p/a average had indeed had a pampered life,by definition it'll be a second car, a run of the mill Fiesta / whatever much less so.
It might have had the nuts ragged off it every time it moved, thats the chance you take with such a car but it usually shows in overall condition.
For your average daily drivers (ie non Sports cars) then yes, I'd agree entirely.
Revving the crap out of it daily is what sports cars are built for, that won't kill one unless it hasn't been maintained properly. The common problems your likely to find in sports cars which have been thrown around are worn suspension, bearings and bushes. But it isn't all that expensive to put right.
Most S2000s have spent their lives bouncing off 9000rpm and very few have gone wrong.
Most S2000s have spent their lives bouncing off 9000rpm and very few have gone wrong.
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Where were you when I was trying to sell my 107,000 mile 911 turbo
.I keep looking at XK 4.2 Jaaags, now they're not a sports car but I see 2006/07 models with anything from 50-100000 miles and for some reason I think the higher mileage ones might be a better bet. Apart from the fact they are thousands cheaper they have obviously been used rather than doing 4-5000 miles a year.
Yup
my most recent purchase has a 3L V6 diesel that seems to have spent 90% of its life in stop start traffic on school runs and commuting - not so much in the way of dings or scuffs but the engine certainly has suffered because of that - a few gunked up sensors and EGR valve was done. Same miles mostly motorway the engine would probably still be almost like new.
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Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated. I ended up going for a different car in the end due to the original not having enough specifications for my liking. The car is newer and has just 21k on the clock so I am a happy camper 
Oof...Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated. I ended up going for a different car in the end due to the original not having enough specifications for my liking. The car is newer and has just 21k on the clock so I am a happy camper