Liam Neeson race row - he wanted to kill a black man!
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Lmao, he’s the last person you should be using to back your point up.
The guy is an unadulterated idiot of the highest order.
As for Neeson and his comments, not that I really care but that’s a sure fire way of killing your career honestly. What a dumb thing to say. Should have kept that to himself as it does nothing for him other than for people to call him a racist so and so.
Do I think he’s racist?? I don’t know tbh, it happened a long time ago and I haven’t come across him saying anything like that recently. But there are plenty of closet racists around so unless you know them quite well, it’s not that easy to pick out a racist.
My colleague just said "he shouldn't have opened his fat Irish mouth"
Without a hint of irony.
People talking about Liam Neeson killing his career, he's 66 years old and supposedly worth $85m, I reckon he'll cope.
Sadly, very typical of what the mainstream media does. It's an industry to generate sales / clicks. They don't care what harm they do.
It wasn't a 'moment of rage' though. We all understand you can make wrong decisions when in the heat of the moment, a 'crime of passion' but he admitted he went out every night for about a week.
That's rational and calculated.
Fine. It was a "5-7 days of rage". Does that make you happier? It doesn't mean that because it took him (*gasp*) six days before the rape of a close family member had stopped driving him irrational with rage it's not atypical, aberrant behaviour. What is the defined limit of a psychotic break, do tell? It's not who he is today, which you seem to object to yet nonetheless seems to be true.
sigh... two replies in a row from people who can't understand simple concepts. this is why the whole thing's blowing up in the first place. i bet more time was spent rushing out to find a link to a "funny" gif than actually reading and trying to understand the basic logic.
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What I got from this story is just how uncontrollably angry people would naturally become with the news of a close friend being raped. Irrational wouldn't even come close to how many of us would react to this.
The point I think isn't that Morgan is someone you should take ethical pointers on, but that he normally sits extremely firmly on the anti-SJW, anti politically correct and right leaning side of things, and even he is saying that Neeson is out of order.
Seriously? Seriously?
Yes, it's a pretty horrifying act. But the fact is that he did it long ago, presented it in the context of recognising how wrong it was, sought out treatment for it, and - importantly - he never actually harmed anyone. Do we really want to create a situation where people can't discuss mistakes of their past?
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That's almost unbelievable nowadays, fancy back then you could search the streets and not find a single aggressive black lad. Maybe he should try again in London, wearing a stab proof undergarment, of course. How many violent deaths at the hands of those with unpronounceable names so far, I have lost count, a couple more this week already I think? As an aside am I the only person here never to have heard of this Irishman? I do admit that the last film I saw in a cinema was Under Milk Wood...
Charles Bronson had no problem wreaking revenge, maybe he needs to go and watch some of his films...Liam Neeson accepting that at some point in his life that he had racist thoughts and took racist action with the intention of carrying out violence on a black person. He realised what was going on, got help and stopped. Moved on with his life and no one was hurt.
He talks about this experience, that many could well have felt themselves through their lives (like he said, it was a primal feeling, not a thought through one) and he's attacked left right and centre for it. Attack him for the way he acted on his racist thoughts, praise him for getting help and feeling shame for it. However using this story to promote his film is idiotic and should also be rightly attacked.
After thinking about this for a day I've come to the following conclusions:
The thoughts and act of going out with the intention of hurting someone based on rates is ABOMINABLE.
The self reflection, seeking of reform and subsequent re-calibration of thoughts is commendable, but damn well lucky it was done in time considering a whole week went by where he was doing this.
It's good this subject is being talked about, even if helps one person to realise their thoughts are wrong and they seek help before acting out in them.
Liam Neeson is an idiot for using this story to promote his film and rightly deserves criticism for doing so.
If there is someone out there right now with these sorts of thoughts (and haven't acted on them) and see's how he is treated then they will just keep their mouths shut, won't seek help and will have the thoughts fester and eventually consider acting out on them.
He talks about this experience, that many could well have felt themselves through their lives (like he said, it was a primal feeling, not a thought through one) and he's attacked left right and centre for it. Attack him for the way he acted on his racist thoughts, praise him for getting help and feeling shame for it. However using this story to promote his film is idiotic and should also be rightly attacked.
After thinking about this for a day I've come to the following conclusions:
The thoughts and act of going out with the intention of hurting someone based on rates is ABOMINABLE.
The self reflection, seeking of reform and subsequent re-calibration of thoughts is commendable, but damn well lucky it was done in time considering a whole week went by where he was doing this.
It's good this subject is being talked about, even if helps one person to realise their thoughts are wrong and they seek help before acting out in them.
Liam Neeson is an idiot for using this story to promote his film and rightly deserves criticism for doing so.
If there is someone out there right now with these sorts of thoughts (and haven't acted on them) and see's how he is treated then they will just keep their mouths shut, won't seek help and will have the thoughts fester and eventually consider acting out on them.
So you get over any tramatic event in a few hours?
No one is talking about him being angry, they are explaining his actions as a "moment of rage" a "crime of passion" which is losing control of your actions in the heat of the moment - so no, that would not stand up as an excuse since it lasted a week.
The same way you can justifiably kill someone in self defence if they break in to your house and you feel your life is threatened. You can't chase that person down the street to kill them or find out where they live and kill them days later just because you're still angry about it and write it off to a justifiable action.
Let alone go out and want to kill a random innocent person because you are still angry about the actions of someone else
I agree with the bit in bold for the most part. He should be commended for changing but I think praise is a bit too strong of a word. I don't think any decent person should harbour any racist feelings from the word go. Racism is taught. But, the important bit is that he has reflected on this and knows it was wrong.
People change, as Liam is trying to show. I mean, he was still an adult at the time this happened so he should have known better then but it's better late than never. No one was hurt, luckily. So it's not really that bad. Could've been much worse. Imagine if he had acted out on his actions (we'd never get Taken and I love that film). Or if the woman had lied about the person who had commited the crime. Ireland would've had it's own Emmett Till issue.
I just think celebrities should treat the media like boxing. Protect yourself at all times, because if you give them an inch they'll take a mile.