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People are too impatient for 4k to become mainstream. We're not there yet. They just need to wait a few years and continue with 1440p. Problem solved.
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Will the Price of the 2080ti Fall?
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People are too impatient for 4k to become mainstream. We're not there yet. They just need to wait a few years and continue with 1440p. Problem solved.
I'm at 4K for productivity reasons... 1440p wouldn't cut it, and I don't have room for another monitor. It's nice to have a card that can manage 4K well, but in some games it still struggles a bit... although this is more down to the game optimisation (or lack thereof) than the card not being up to the task.
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TBH for gamers it's not really an option. Unless you are already commited to freesync and your monitor is not supported by NV. Gtx 2080 is equivalent price and accross the board has better performance then with DLSS and RTX on top, and uses less power with less heat and is quieter.
Of course the Radeon has bags more compute power and double the ram so has an advantage in non gaming stuff.... But personally I am only interested in games and as such imo AMD are still not at the races.
Now I know some will say if you fiddle with it by under volting and over clocking you get more out of it however if that was a certainty then why did AMD not spec the card better and do that for us? It is a lottery same as anything else and as such the only specs we can 100% count on are out of the box.
For instance I was told it was a slam dunk for my gtx 980 to get to 1500mhz but it would not OC at all. I lost the lottery there. OTOH my 1080ti sits on a stress test at 2000mhz with a good amount on the ram as well all day long .It may do more but am happy as is and consider that a lottery win.
At the midrange however esp with the games bundles they have put out AMD are more interesting
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Its not something they'll do. Nvidia are so full of themselves they'd rather take the hit on lost profits than reduce prices, that'd be like throwing up their arms and saying "hey we made a mistake!". Nvidia would never admit to that.
If anything prices are increasing, look at this ffs.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-42t-as.html
£1700 for a different shroud decal and backplate. These must be more cards they don't want to sell.
Even the regular strix has went up almost another £100 over the last couple of weeks to £1590.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-42t-as.html
£1700 for a different shroud decal and backplate. These must be more cards they don't want to sell.
Even the regular strix has went up almost another £100 over the last couple of weeks to £1590.
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Yes, the "The Turing RTX 2080 Ti Owners Thread" is full of people who caused this. Some of them agreed they're expensive but bought one anyway. People are like sheep. Nvidia says jump so fanboys say how high.
I bought one and agree they are too expensive for what you get. I work hard and want to enjoy my game time as much as possible. Should I have waited for Navi and been disappointed or should I have just kept waiting? For the record, my 2080Ti plays Elite Dangerous on the Rift with everything maxed out and sits at 90fps all the time. Very happy with that and I do want the Pimax 5K but still waiting on a pre-order to come through. I am sure the 2080Ti will do well in that also. I don't see me as a sheep though and find that talk offensive.
Spot on Scougar!
In a roundabout way consumers did cause it, but it was never going to be any other way given that lack of competition. Just look at how the tide has turned since AMD brought Ryzen to the party. Before that, not once did Intel ever need to worry they weren't going to sell CPUs. Anyone asking the question "will they actually buy this?" in an Intel meeting would have been laughed out the room. Consumers are VERY predictable at the end of the day.
Nvidia really don't have that much to worry about until AMD or Intel have a top end competitor, but they will have had a realisation of sorts with Turing, in so far as recognising you can't ask ANY price and expect consumers to gladly pay in their droves, simply because they have no viable alternative.
We will see.. it is clear Nvidia have a big ego, but in some ways justifiably so. They have no real equal, and are currently marking up cards with RT stuff in it that has no real worth right now. In a few gens... maybe a bit better and actually worthwhile. They are resting on their laurels and laughing at us with the prices.
I am hoping that AMD can do what they are going to do with Ryzen, and build a cheap to make multichip/chiplet platform that can scale and actually once again bring competition to the market. I don't care about AMD or Nvidia... i just want to get my gfx for a reasonable price without the BS. I make north of 6 figures, it's not about not being able to, it's about not wanting to pay for something I believe I'm getting ripped off for.
If people can afford it, it is up to them. Competition is what is needed. Say what you want about fanboys but lack of serious competition is what allows these high prices.
Except when the gaming industry grinds to a halt and crashes (again), it won't matter "if people can afford it". They will have killed it by causing gaming hardware to become priced out of the market.
Where is the logic in that response? People who can afford it are supporting the developers of hardware and I would assume software by purchasing. Those people who sit there whining about price etc are the ones who would cause it, as they are not actually supporting hardware and in turn not game developers (as they don't have the hardware to run it.
Hardly anyone spends more than £400 on a GPU. If people feel they need to spend more they will either go and buy a console or just not bother upgrading, as we are seeing right now. The high prices (along with greedy games publishers) are killing the industry.
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Well if people feel they need to spend more, they can. Consoles are under £400, so why anyone would feel they need to spend more is weird. I will probably grab a PS5 when it comes out but at heart I am a PC gamer and have been all the way back to the spectrum days. I have built a couple of sytems recently for £850 and £990 and both needed screens, keyboards and mice. The core components were quite high up and will see the lads gaming for a couple of years before needing to replace the GPUs. It can be a cheaper way of gaming over a console and more versatile. I enjoy gaming, be it on console or PC and each to their own.
A big factor on price is the us dollar to uk pounds exchange rate the last couple if years its made prices in sterling look much worse. If we were 1.75 to the pound our 1200 pound 1080ti would be closer to 900. The 700 pound 1080 would be 550. It was 1.6 when i brought my kfa gtx1080 which i think was a 750 dollar card and i paid 550 uk. The problem is the gtx2080 referance is 800 dollars and with the pound being 1.28 and adding vat means we are paying 800 pounds. Not overclockers fault they buy in dollars and yes nvidia have put up prices a little but turing die size is massive so number of good dies will be less on each wafer so a small increase in cost is normal.
Put up prices a little bit hahaha
1080ti fe $699 to 2080ti $999
1080 fe $599 to 2080 $799
1070 fe $449 to 2070 $599
1060 $249 to 2060 $349
Those increases are not "a little bit"
A little bit would be $25-$50 not $100 to $300!
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Prices will get better over the coming years as AMD, Intel, next gen consoles, plus streaming services will provide competition for years to come.
I think people are seriously underestimating streaming services, the minute wee Joe and his mates can get their Fifa, COD, etc fix for the price of a Netflix subscription hardware sales will tank, especially at console level. Sony and MS know this fine well.
On side side note: people on here obviously mention graphics a lot when it comes to PC gaming, but it's more than that, it's the PC eco system and all the benefits it provides that make it very appealing. Consoles just aren't an option.
Put it this way, in terms of digital content i wouldn't like to have invested serious money on closed platforms like PSN/XBL or even worse eShop.
I think people are seriously underestimating streaming services, the minute wee Joe and his mates can get their Fifa, COD, etc fix for the price of a Netflix subscription hardware sales will tank, especially at console level. Sony and MS know this fine well.
On side side note: people on here obviously mention graphics a lot when it comes to PC gaming, but it's more than that, it's the PC eco system and all the benefits it provides that make it very appealing. Consoles just aren't an option.
Put it this way, in terms of digital content i wouldn't like to have invested serious money on closed platforms like PSN/XBL or even worse eShop.