Upgrade Advice - A few questions if I may :)

XanthianZ

XanthianZ

XanthianZ

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Currently running:
i5-3570k @ 4.8ghz (no idea whats cooling it, but its crap.. 65deg idle)
16GB DDR3 RAM
Asus GTX 780
Z77-D3H Mobo

So I think its time to upgrade..
On a budget :(

Been looking around at whats new, a bit out of the loop if i'm honest, but i've come up with the following :
i5-9600k
16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz
Asus Z390 TUF Gaming Plus
Gigabyte Windforce Edition RTX 2060

I currently have a Zalman Z11 Plus case with an EVGA 700w PSU which im hoping to repurpose, case probably needs some better fans. Failing that the Corsair Carbide 275r looks ok.
Hoping to OC the CPU to 4.8Ghz and have been eyeing up the be quiet Dark Rock 4 cooler.

Now, questions.
Asus boards, I hear a lot of horror stories about RMA and other issues, should I go for the equivalent Gigabyte board (Gaming X) always had Gigabyte boards and never had any issues.
I've also been told the Asus board isn't really capable of an overclock that's worth while, anyone got any experience with this?
Also that I''ll definitely need at least an All-In-One cooler for overclocking, seems a little crazy that a TDP200 cooler isn't sufficient?
I've no use for any of the fancy RGB nor SLI, I just want a basic board that will let me OC and that will last a good few years. Do i even just go for the Gigabyte UD
Thoughts on the 9600k? Worth the extra £20 over the 8600k?
Thoughts on the 2060? Worth paying extra for a 1070? cant quite stretch to a 2070..

Might be worth adding im looking to buy the cpu+mobo+ram+cooler as a prebuilt bundle pre clocked so i dont blow it up :)

My head is spinning!!
Help!
 
if you can wait 6 months or so, may i suggest that this would be the better option
reason being that ryzen 3000 should be released by then, and can compare the performance of those chips vs current gen.
 
AMD is not an option, ever since buying the Athlon K7 which were an absolute travesty, i vowed never to touch them again.
They could be the best CPU/GFX available but i'm sold on Intel/nVidia.

+ i don't really want to wait, there's new games to play!
 
XanthianZ said:
AMD is not an option, ever since buying the Athlon K7 which were an absolute travesty, i vowed never to touch them again.
They could be the best CPU/GFX available but i'm sold on Intel/nVidia.
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odd belief. but if you want to get the lube out and gouged by intel and nvidia so be it. i'll let others fight that battle :P

XanthianZ said:
On a budget :(
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what is the budget?

XanthianZ said:
EVGA 700w PSU which im hoping to repurpose
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which specific model is this?

also, storage-wise? what do you have?
 
What was the problem with AMD K7? I had a couple and they were amazing chips for the money. It was a long time ago too, 20 years to be precise!
 
tamzzy said:
odd belief. but if you want to get the lube out and gouged by intel and nvidia so be it. i'll let others fight that battle :p
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I know, I know.. its like voting for Conservatives.. but.. ‍*shrug*

what is the budget?
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Budget is around £1000-£1200, that Mobo bundle comes in around £600 + GFX leaves about £150 spare if i need a Case & PSU.

which specific model is this?
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PSU - I was mistaken its an Akasa 750w Venom, end of life many years back - actually probably trash!
I have a spare Corsair CX650M that's never been used (about 4yrs old)

also, storage-wise? what do you have?
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Storage I have a number of SSD's 840 pro being the best of the bunch, but these will eventually be replaced with NVMe at some point down the line, I dont see that as the major concern just yet.
 
XanthianZ said:
PSU - I was mistaken its an Akasa 750w Venom, end of life many years back - actually probably trash!
I have a spare Corsair CX650M that's never been used (about 4yrs old)
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yeah. time to retire that venom.
the CX650M is a decent budget PSU. i'd suggest using that on the new build.

unfortunately had to plop for a mini 2070 as your z11+ case can only fit GPUs up to 290mm without modding.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,178.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)

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between an overpriced 9600k bundle + 2060 and the above (9700k + 2070), i know which one i'd pick.
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,203.54 (includes shipping: £12.60)​
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basic igabyte board with 10+2 VRM set up , something like 600amps across the vcore haha . as tamz highlighted ports, sound not as good but funds diverted else where etc
 
Price is creeping up :P
i7 and 2070 were never a consideration really, because of the price difference, but with some tweaking I can maybe maybe stretch a bit.
Is that UD mobo decent enough to OC with?
 
XanthianZ said:
Price is creeping up :p
i7 and 2070 were never a consideration really, because of the price difference, but with some tweaking I can maybe maybe stretch a bit.
Is that UD mobo decent enough to OC with?
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save some cash, i7 8700 non K, will turbo boost to 4.3ghz all cores

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8700

z390 board will allow vrm to keep cool

rtx 2060 to keep some costs down

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,038.54 (includes shipping: £12.60)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
basic igabyte board with 10+2 VRM set up , something like 600amps across the vcore haha . as tamz highlighted ports, sound not as good but funds diverted else where etc
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orbitalwalsh said:
save some cash, i7 8700 non K, will turbo boost to 4.3ghz all cores

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8700

z390 board will allow vrm to keep cool

rtx 2060 to keep some costs down

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Total: £1,038.54 (includes shipping: £12.60)
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i wouldn't recommend a refurbed aio cooler lol, that's just asking for trouble
also, the z11+ is by no means a bad case. yes, it can only take a 290mm gpu, but there are mini 2070s that are available to buy
if that extra £70 is the difference in getting a 9700k vs a 8700, or a 2070 vs a 2060, i know where the money would be better spent
 
i'm thinking 2070 over the 9700 price per performance gain.. unless im wrong with this
Both about £150 more than their lesser model, but the performance gain is more in the GFX card.

im incredibly reluctant to go down the route of watercooling and building the cpu+mobo bundle myself.. damaged things in the past, im a bit of a hamfisted ape.
 
XanthianZ said:
i'm thinking 2070 over the 9700 price per performance gain.. unless im wrong with this
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why? when you can get both?
XanthianZ said:
Budget is around £1000-£1200
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tamzzy said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,178.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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XanthianZ said:
building the cpu+mobo bundle myself.. damaged things in the past, im a bit of a hamfisted ape.
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you know that ocuk don't actually send it to you in a prebuilt bundle, right?
the bundle, is literally a bundle of parts that you still need to assemble yourself
 
i'm an IT engineer and have built all my machines thus far so I should be able to do it myself, however..
I'd rather pay someone to do it so I avoid jamming a screwdriver through the motherboard or something daft.

Seems crazy I know, but its a lot of money to **** up the wall if you do screw up.
 
fair enough. thing is, 6c6t 9600k/8600k is going to be somewhat anaemic in the not too distant future...with multicore computing now becoming more common.
8c8t will last you longer. up to you i guess.
it's also not as if you couldn't ask ocuk to build you the custom spec (which some people do)
 
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