Labour frontbencher Diane Abbott "coloured".

Zimbabwe mk2.

"Yay, lets kick out all the white farmers! Because white people!"
"Why is there no food!?!"

Africa...
It's worse than that, they have squandered millions that was ear marked for upgrading the water infrastructure in Cape town, they are going to run out of water
 
ITT white people decide what is and isn’t racist
Well it's odd that we now have concepts such as "unintentional racism" and "subconscious racism", and the PC brigade want us to believe that we're racists whether we are prejudiced against black people or not.

So we're living in a reality where people just play the racist card so often that for many of us it's become nothing more than a laughing matter.

"Oh look at the fuss and furore because she said 'coloured'. That's so 2019."

I'm sure real racism still exists and is causing genuine problems. But when you dilute the issue with nonsense like this - and make, like, a really big deal about it, it makes people like me roll our eyes and care less in general about "racism".

That's the truth as this privileged white boy sees it :p
 
The term coloured or brown is offensive...however black or white is not.

I don't think anyone in the world is black are they? only different shades of brown........strange world we live in

Then again, I don't think anyone is white either.

There are some people whose skin is so dark it could fairly reasonably be called black. Some Nilotic people, maybe. Some of them have skin too dark to be called "brown".

People with albinism have skin that's pretty close to being white in places with less surface blood.

But they're anomalies. Almost all human skin is a mix of white (the skin itself), red (blood) and black (melanin). So different shades of brown, as you say.

Besides, that's just skin. It's skin deep in the most literal possible sense. It's not the person. So nobody is black, white or any shade of brown. Their skin might be, but they are not.

These words originated in the USA and S.Africa during the segregation eras, 'no coloured's allowed on this bus' etc. even the offensive word ni***r has it's origins in a deep south pronunciation of Negro's which became Nigras and eventually the r was dropped.
Nigreos is simply Latin for black, some plants have the word Nigra in their latin name if they have dark foliage

At one time in the recent past it was considered grossly offensive to call someone 'black' but now it's the opposite

As far as I know, the original Latin is "niger" (hence, for example, the river Niger) and "nigra" is Portugese (derived from the Latin). Portugal played a pretty big role in the Atlantic slave trade for a while. But I could be wrong - that's just off the top of my head.

It's the outrage culture.

People are offended on other peoples behalf.

I'm a disabled person but if someone used the word handicapped (which I *think* goes back to an old word meaning cap in hand i.e. a begger etc) I wouldnt think it was a sign of their hatred of disabled people, or me. I would just think they either don't know the word as gone out of fashion or they made a mistake. I wouldn't treated it like there was some big agenda going on.[..]

No, that's a modern myth. Or, to be less polite/more cynical, a lie for political purposes.

The origin of the word "handicapped" is quite well documented because it's a quite recent word, only a couple of hundred years old. This initially sounds daft but it makes sense when you have more context: The word "handicapped" comes from gambling on horse racing.

The context is as follows...

In the past, before organised bookmaking, there were specialists in horse racing who worked freelance at racetracks. Consultants, essentially. If two people wanted to make a bet, they could hire one of these people to set the odds for the bet. The custom was for the consultant to hold a container, traditionally a cap, and for each better to hold an agreed upon amount of money in their hand and put their hand in the cap. The consultant then stated what they judged to be fair odds for the bet and each better decided whether or not to accept the bet at those odds, either withdrawing their hand with the money still in it or dropping the money in the cap before withdrawing their hand. No begging involved - this was an expert being paid a fee for their time and knowledge. Since the odds were stated when the better had their hand in the cap, "hand in the cap" became used to refer to betting and odds in general. This, of course, was shortened and smoothed to "handicap". In some races under some rules, some horses had to carry additional weight in a race. This of course affected the fair odds on any bet involving that horse, so the horses carrying extra weight became referred to as "handicapped" due to the word/phrase being used in connection with betting on horse racing and the races themselves became called handicap races. As far as I know, they still are.

A little later, the word became extended to cover other extra burdens to carry, literal or metaphorical, and extended to people, other sports and other aspects of life. It's best known in golf, but applies to anything. For example, I am handicapped in my interest in ancient Rome by my inability to read classical Latin to any significant extent.

The word "disabled" means "utterly useless, having no function at all, completely pointless". It is hands down the most insulting possible way to refer to a person. Even if "handicapped" did have its orgins in begging (which it doesn't), it would still be far, far less insulting than "disabled".
 
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The whole argument is stupid. 'Black' people aren't black and 'white' people aren't white. This has bothered me since i was a child and I was old enough to know what colours were. :o

Unfortunately not everyone sees things as you do and if the existence of 'black' and 'white' people is ignored then we risk turning a blind eye when someone doesn't see them as people but as 'black' and 'white'.
 
. . . if the existence of 'black' and 'white' people is ignored then we risk turning a blind eye when someone doesn't see them as people but as 'black' and 'white'.
This.

So often the faux outrage at the mere suggestion that some terms and words are considered discriminatory just happens (quite coincidentally of course) to be voiced by bigots . . . strange that . . .
 
Unfortunately not everyone sees things as you do and if the existence of 'black' and 'white' people is ignored then we risk turning a blind eye when someone doesn't see them as people but as 'black' and 'white'.

This. I had someone try and tell me that
sub saharan black people are genetically inferior as they has very low IQs (below 70). Apparently he’s researched this and there was evidence to back it up. I called it ******** and when I got home I looked it up. There were indeed two researchers who used IQ data going back to the 1950s to back up their claim. They were vilified by their peers. There research was outdated and they made huge assumptions. Yes IQs were on the whole slightly lower in sub saharan Africa (more like 85 than 70) but this was due to diet, healthcare and education and not genetics. This guy isn’t an idiot either, he’s very well educated but sadly racist. When I go back to the Cotswolds where I grew up until I moved to London at 21 I still hear racist comments all the time. It got even worse around the Brexit vote. In the sticks and amongst the older generations it’s still alive and kicking :(
 
I have not heard the word coloured in public for a long time, I think abbot is playing the racist card, so not a fan of her reaction but also rudd should have been more careful with her choice of words with the way society is now days.
 
It's the outrage culture.

People are offended on other peoples behalf.

I'm a disabled person but if someone used the word handicapped (which I *think* goes back to an old word meaning cap in hand i.e. a begger etc) I wouldnt think it was a sign of their hatred of disabled people, or me. I would just think they either don't know the word as gone out of fashion or they made a mistake. I wouldn't treated it like there was some big agenda going on.

Yeah but imagine all of the power you could have by acting offended, all of the people who will give you immediate attention whilst sticking it to some fully able bodied person.

It's all about power, I don't think it's a coincidence that the majority of feminist SJW are physically unattractive, radical feminism offers them a platform to attack and feel superior to the people they resent the most, attractive women.
 
I don't think it's a coincidence that the majority of feminist SJW are physically unattractive, radical feminism offers them a platform to attack and feel superior to the people they resent the most, attractive women. Fancy being payed to be beautiful, we gotta stop that.

I remember reading years ago that the biggest problem that pretty young professional women have in advancing their careers is a middle aged Female HR manager!
 
I remember reading years ago that the biggest problem that pretty young professional women have in advancing their careers is a middle aged Female HR manager!

What never gets talked about is women bullying other women in the work place. I've seen this loads. Men almost always enjoy working with women who are good at their job, as funnily enough we actually like the opposite sex and enjoy their company. Compare that to the back stabbing that women do to each other, the same woman sharing an international women's day picture at work sacked a girl the day before she got promoted because she offended her mate by telling him a better way of doing his job.
 
No, but Abbott's statement that it was "outdated, offensive and revealing" is accurate, for once.
Tosh, it's just a normal 'hysteria' day on social media.

I was reading that social media was in meltdown in South Korea the other day because a female news presenter decided she would wear her 'glasses' on air. Apparently 'contact lenses' are the only vision aid which should be worn.

How facile is global society going to become before someone shouts 'enough' the 'Emperor isn't wearing any clothes'. There's no hope for us if this madness carries on.
 
Yeah but imagine all of the power you could have by acting offended, all of the people who will give you immediate attention whilst sticking it to some fully able bodied person.

It's all about power, I don't think it's a coincidence that the majority of feminist SJW are physically unattractive, radical feminism offers them a platform to attack and feel superior to the people they resent the most, attractive women.

This is true. I don't see myself as a victim.

I think the 'do-gooders' are constantly offended on other peoples behalf, and one side effect is the minority groups buy in to that way of thinking, like a brain washing.

There is real discrimination. I've seen disabled people be refused shop service because of how they looked. That is what I would call discrimination.

But trying to lump people who make a mistake in the language they use, and immediately apologise, with the people who are full on discriminating against minority groups is actually insulting to genuine cases.

I always remember the Jewish comedian Jackie Mason talking about the people attacking Mel Gibson over his film the Passon of Christ. Attributing views to Gibson, even though he apologised for any offence, but "these people are permanently offended. They wake up in the morning thinking what can I be offended about today. If they weren't offended then they'd have to get a proper job".

On a slightly OT. I saw yesterday on a newspaper website opinion piece masquerading as journalism, that they were reporting on someone they were accusing of being alt-right. What drew my attention to the story is it said "and some of his followers are actual nazis". The last time I looked Nazi's were in Germany in the 1930's and 1940's murdering millions of people. Yet some idiot writing an article on a website in 2019 can't tell the difference. It is highly insulting.
 
The issue is, would she have apologised if not brought to task?

Well never find out, but typically MPs do not apologise unless light is upon their ‘mistake’.

Frankly, it also doesn’t matter because performance in a ministers position seems to be completely detached from reality. The fact that former disgraced defence secretary Dr. Liam fox and entirely disgraced transport minister Chris Grayling are allied to continue while constantly destroying theme countries image... means there is no serious issue with making mistakes.

If you worked as an IT manager and ‘accidentally deleted’ your entire companies system and backups, you’d be rightly fired and probably sued.

So the only recourse anyone has with these cretins is embarrassment.
 
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This. I had someone try and tell me that
sub saharan black people are genetically inferior as they has very low IQs (below 70). Apparently he’s researched this and there was evidence to back it up. I called it ******** and when I got home I looked it up. There were indeed two researchers who used IQ data going back to the 1950s to back up their claim. They were vilified by their peers

There has been later studies, Prof. Phillipe Rushtons research and Charles Murrays book the bell curve. Rushton went to huge lengths to try and equalise the study, by using only university students in South Africa, rewriting the test for African culture & language etc. The difference in IQ at the tails was still there but both were clear that they couldn't explain why.

Murray especially was absolutely trashed, which is ironic as the studies found East Asians to have the highest IQs.
 
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