What smart Doorbell?

CaptainRAVE said:
Not that this would result in any kind of action and you would be out of pocket.
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Both Nest and Ring offer free replacements if it's stolen. Nest at least, don't limit how many times you can claim as you obviously have video evidence of it being stolen
 
Steedie said:
Nest Hello owner and couldn't be happier, definitely recommend them to anyone looking at getting one. Been so useful on a number of occasions.

I went for the Nest over the Ring version simply because I have a few Nest products already so it made sense to do so and be able to operate everything with one app.

As mentioned, Nest will send a free replacement if its stolen.
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How quick are the notifications and how quick does it load the camera feed on your phone?

The biggest problem I have with my Ring Pro is that there is a delay with the notification coming through for motion, and the camera feed takes about 5 seconds or so before it loads (often loading as the person is walking away from the door :p).

Also do you need to pay a yearly fee? I pay about £24 a year (I think) to have the recordings saved to their cloud service at the moment.
 
Marky said:
How quick are the notifications and how quick does it load the camera feed on your phone?

The biggest problem I have with my Ring Pro is that there is a delay with the notification coming through for motion, and the camera feed takes about 5 seconds or so before it loads (often loading as the person is walking away from the door :p).

Also do you need to pay a yearly fee? I pay about £24 a year (I think) to have the recordings saved to their cloud service at the moment.
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I get a notification about a second after the doorbell is pressed, and then once I open the notification, I'm viewing the feed and able to talk within another 2 seconds (if that sometimes). This is on 4G. If I'm on the home wi-fi, then it's almost instant.

With movement and detecting people, it's instant. As soon as the camera notices someone, whether thats walking past my house or to the door, I get a notification straight away. Handy as the other day I got a notification about someone walking to my house that it didn't recognise. I was able to open the app and ask who it was before they'd even finished trying to put their spam through my letterbox.

I pay £40 a year for their basic service, which is just the 5 days of recording, which means it stores every instance of a face it sees, I can go back to any point in time and it stores every single clip. So that's worth it to me
 
Steedie said:
I get a notification about a second after the doorbell is pressed, and then once I open the notification, I'm viewing the feed and able to talk within another 2 seconds (if that sometimes). This is on 4G. If I'm on the home wi-fi, then it's almost instant.

With movement and detecting people, it's instant. As soon as the camera notices someone, whether thats walking past my house or to the door, I get a notification straight away. Handy as the other day I got a notification about someone walking to my house that it didn't recognise. I was able to open the app and ask who it was before they'd even finished trying to put their spam through my letterbox.

I pay £40 a year for their basic service, which is just the 5 days of recording, which means it stores every instance of a face it sees, I can go back to any point in time and it stores every single clip. So that's worth it to me
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Cool thanks for the feedback :)

I am seriously tempted at selling my Ring Pro and installing a Nest Hello...
 
Contemplating whether to get a Nest Hello or an iQ Outdoor Camera.

It would definitely be easier to install the Nest Hello, however the iQ Outdoor Camera would capture in better quality. Decisions, decisions!
 
M1k3H said:
Contemplating whether to get a Nest Hello or an iQ Outdoor Camera.

It would definitely be easier to install the Nest Hello, however the iQ Outdoor Camera would capture in better quality. Decisions, decisions!
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ideally you should have both in fact you should have several outdoor iQ's. break in's are on the rise
 
Psycho Sonny said:
ideally you should have both in fact you should have several outdoor iQ's. break in's are on the rise
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Well, with the 160 degree FOV, I reckon I can cover the entirety of the front of the house inc. the driveway with one device. I will take some measurements and draw it out to make sure that's the case. The back then is more unlikely to get broken into because of the surrounding houses, high fence and security lights. Also if I had a camera in the back, it would film the neighbours gardens as well, so would be intruding into their privacy.
 
Ordered an outdoor iq today, will be picking it up tomorrow. Will call an electrician over next week to put some internal sockets at the storage room, as I’ll be putting the camera on the outside of it. For anyone interested, plumbing city have it for £235 as opposed to the rrp of £329, and I got John Lewis to price match!
 
Steedie said:
Both Nest and Ring offer free replacements if it's stolen. Nest at least, don't limit how many times you can claim as you obviously have video evidence of it being stolen
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Just FYI that Nest don't offer replacements outside of US/Canada.

I've just installed mine and was hoping by now that someone had made a lockable collar/shell for them.

I've heard the best approach is to stick some hot glue into the pinhole. Then if it ever needs removing you'd have to heat the glue up. Obviously a lot of faff for someone looking for a snatch and grab.
 
mid_gen said:
Does the Nest work without an internet service?

I.e. will it become a useless brick when Google inevitably pull support?
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If it's wired into a traditional chime, then it'll work just like a traditional doorbell.

Considering Google has spent most of last year aligning all their smart home tech under Nest, and the fact that most people are likely paying a subscription model for Nest aware, it's unlikely Google will pull the plug.
 
Semple said:
Just FYI that Nest don't offer replacements outside of US/Canada.

I've just installed mine and was hoping by now that someone had made a lockable collar/shell for them.

I've heard the best approach is to stick some hot glue into the pinhole. Then if it ever needs removing you'd have to heat the glue up. Obviously a lot of faff for someone looking for a snatch and grab.
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if someone steals your doorbell it's married to your account meaning it cannot be used anywhere else. it cannot be removed from your account unless you remove it yourself.

so if it gets stolen just leave it on your account and it cannot be used by anyone else.

meaning it's essentially bricked when stolen - therefore only idiots steal them. once they get someone coming back and saying it doesn't work i'm sure they won't bother stealing it again.

mid_gen said:
Does the Nest work without an internet service?

I.e. will it become a useless brick when Google inevitably pull support?
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lolwut?

google own nest. why would they pull support? they paid a lot of money for it. in fact they just renamed all of their speakers to nest hub max, etc.

so it would be weird from them to just walk away. more likely for amazon to drop ring
 
Psycho Sonny said:
lolwut?

google own nest. why would they pull support? they paid a lot of money for it. in fact they just renamed all of their speakers to nest hub max, etc.

so it would be weird from them to just walk away. more likely for amazon to drop ring
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Why would Google pull the plug? I don't know, ask them about the hundreds of services they've pulled the plug on.

They don't have a good track record in this area.
 
I was just going to say, the list of products/services that google has pulled the plug in is extensive. Once they get bored, they pull the plug and do it quickly and indiscriminately.

The doorbell on my house has been there for the best part of two decades. Will the nest doorbell still be working in 20 years time? If it just hasn’t died, google hasn’t killed it I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get the ‘Sonos’ treatment in the future or they just switch the servers off.

I’m all for getting smart tech but I go in these days with my eyes wide open. Even mega companies like google could just kill it or completely change the day after (aka nest thermostat).
 
Psycho Sonny said:
if someone steals your doorbell it's married to your account meaning it cannot be used anywhere else. it cannot be removed from your account unless you remove it yourself.

so if it gets stolen just leave it on your account and it cannot be used by anyone else.

meaning it's essentially bricked when stolen - therefore only idiots steal them. once they get someone coming back and saying it doesn't work i'm sure they won't bother stealing it again.
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That would be nice if it was true. Unfortunately an RFD will allow it to just be registered to a new account.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
people pay for the servers. it's a yearly sub.

i don't understand why you would pull a service people pay you for.
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Think about it, income needs to outweigh expenses. But there are loads of other reasons as to why they might kill it or just end support for a proportion of the ecosystem, tech moves on at the end of the day.

There is also free tier to support, I doubt the attach rate is particularly high. People buy these things and not realise there is even a sub. People also quickly realise the the TCO of these things is bonkers once you factor in the sub. Your looking at £700 for the doorbell and just 5 years of subs assuming you fit it yourself. As I pointed out the lifespan of a typical door bell is measured in decades.

At the end of the day of you know all this as many will do on here and still want one, that’s fine but it’s far from as simple as ‘keep paying the sub and will will work forever’.
 
Thought I may as well update my own thread as I ended up picking up a Ring 2 back in July last year from a stupidly cheap amazon deal, my experience/thoughts:-
  • Fitted easily in minutes and just runs off the battery which I've only had to recharge 2-3 times since.
  • Integrates perfectly with Alexa so no need for extra internal chimes.
  • Has worked flawlessly as a door bell or notification that someone has put something through the letter box (meaning we can get to the post before the dog decides to try and help with opening).
  • Even answered it from halfway around the globe which was bizarre.
  • In addition to working as a door bell its a pretty decent security camera, have it setup so it picks up anything on our driveway/front but doesn't false trigger from people walking by on pathway.
For the cost of the yearly sub I think its worth it, bearing it mind its a security system not just a door bell. :)
 
Got a new (still sealed as listed as unwanted gift) Google Nest Hello on the bay, paid total inc Postage of £152, retails at £229, this is newest version (if there is any hardware difference) as it has the new "G" logo not old "nest" logo

I wondered what the little USB port on rear was for (I do not have rest of kit to install yet like Transformer or PSU) so plugged it in and it powered up (seems it can last 10mins) and set it up on my phone initially using the Nest App then swapping to my existing Google Home App (I did not need Migrate a Next Account as it was new not existing but this is now ongoing for all Next users).

I then decided I will not be buying/fitting a Ringer and will simply begetting alerts on my phone and my Google Next Mini's.

The Nest App is still there after install and has more settings so far than the Home App but I can view it in either.

The only downside I can see to this over a Ring is the need to drill a hole in your brick/wood etc to get it power.
 
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