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Anybody else excited just by the sheer amount of board choice? That’s certainly something AMD have lacked for the last 10yrs
 
4K8KW10 said:
Man, I just realise that they actually lowered the core count for the same money. A six-core for staggering 200$. What are they smoking?
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LOL. You like trolling against AMD, completely ignoring Intel pricing.....

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-66r-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-66q-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...e-socket-lga1151-processor-oem-cp-644-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-64u-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...e-socket-lga1151-processor-oem-cp-65p-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-65n-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inte...ocket-lga1151-processor-retail-cp-63t-in.html

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Up to £313 ($400) for a 6 core 12 thread part, with huge security vulnerabilities......
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Intel aint the ones sitting on 10% marketshare. I thought Lisa wanted to disrupt the market.....
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You're getting 50% more cores/threads with comparable single thread IPC for the same money as a 9900K, or slightly faster single thread/multi-thread for half the price of a 9920X, how is that a bad deal?
 
Chrisc said:
Anybody else excited just by the sheer amount of board choice? That’s certainly something AMD have lacked for the last 10yrs
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Yeah. Asus alone has 30 boards, while the Asrock lineup is impressive.
MSI looks going to sell us some crap bellow the X570 MEG though :/
 
A problem with the pricing is that people were picking up the 2700 on deals for £160 - 170 earlier this month.
So paying around twice that for the same core count leaves a bad taste.
When you have been the value option for so long it's difficult for some consumers when prices increase even when the performance does at the same time.
The 3900x is still a bargain though whichever way you look at it.
 
As a complete, utter neutral in this whole debate and as owner of a 4690K waiting for the right time to upgrade, I can still see a huge amount of value in AMD's latest proposition and will be pulling the trigger on an 8 or 12 core CPU as soon as I can, subject to how rich I'm feeling at the time.

In no way do I need 12 cores, but since I typically keep my systems for ~4 years, I want whatever I buy to last. I also think the 12 core will have the highest single-core clocks and therefore gaming performance.
 
drunkenmaster said:
What's underwhelming is you can buy a 8 core 16 thread CPU from AMD today for what ~£200 today. We're moving to 7nm, double the transistor density, 8 core/16 thread should be dropping in cost. 7nm costs more per mm^2, but we're still talking about a fairly significantly smaller amount of actual 7nm die and a much cheaper than it was then 14nm die. Frankly they could be, and should be imo offering the 12core chips at current 8 core pricing, and offering 16 core stuff at higher prices.

Going from a £200 2700 8core 16 thread chip to a £300 8 core 16 thread chip when the production cost is significantly lower is incredibly underwhelming and exceptionally disappointing.

I fully intend to upgrade to Zen and had waited for Zen 2, but I was hoping for a very reasonably priced 12 core as we currently have reasonably priced 8 cores. Going from very reasonably priced 8 cores to significantly more expensive 8 cores is not imo good, for a node drop.

This is a very 'intel' move, using a node for increasing margins over offering just drastically better performance. Cheaper chips per core = higher volume sales, stealing shedloads of market share and generally causing many people to switch.

Intel will drop prices to match AMD and now it will end up being 8 core 16 thread Intel vs AMD at about the same price. With Intel name recognition that isn't going to convince huge amounts of people to switch to AMD. Personally I think pricing is terrible and isn't built to take advantage of the next year. AMD should be dominating, absolutely slaying Intel the next year. Make everyone take them seriously, have Intel become the joke company offering half the cores at double the power and without any security and a year of that and Intel's name will have taken a huge hit.
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Your hardly comparing retail release prices are you? They are coming out within reason at the same release price point with the performance improvements.

Not sure why you'd expect them to match the current sales prices of the existing range rather than the RRP.
 
Participant said:
As a complete, utter neutral in this whole debate and as owner of a 4690K waiting for the right time to upgrade, I can still see a huge amount of value in AMD's latest proposition and will be pulling the trigger on an 8 or 12 core CPU as soon as I can, subject to how rich I'm feeling at the time.

In no way do I need 12 cores, but since I typically keep my systems for ~4 years, I want whatever I buy to last. I also think the 12 core will have the highest single-core clocks and therefore gaming performance.
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What I'm thinking sitting on my 5820K. The new AMD line up looks great.

I don't care that the 2000 series can be had for deals now below their retail launch price, they're EOL; and besides I have a 2700X Gold ( although that's staying in the box :P ).
 
Participant said:
As a complete, utter neutral in this whole debate and as owner of a 4690K waiting for the right time to upgrade, I can still see a huge amount of value in AMD's latest proposition and will be pulling the trigger on an 8 or 12 core CPU as soon as I can, subject to how rich I'm feeling at the time.

In no way do I need 12 cores, but since I typically keep my systems for ~4 years, I want whatever I buy to last. I also think the 12 core will have the highest single-core clocks and therefore gaming performance.
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Where is your link I asked for ?
 
smilingcrow said:
A problem with the pricing is that people were picking up the 2700 on deals for £160 - 170 earlier this month.
So paying around twice that for the same core count leaves a bad taste.
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Yup, the 2700 deals are what's causing the friction with pricing, compared to 2700X it's about what you'd expect.

2700X is currently ~£279, the 3700X is about 20% faster, £279*1.2 = £333, which at it's launch price puts it about the same price/performance while brinign all the new technology updates and power savings.
 
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