Brand new build roughly £1000

tamzzy said:
Both. 250 posts and 6 months, or 100 posts and 1 year
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smooth! with free delivery, could be some good sale prices on certain parts before full core bundle :D

@evertonhero

if you want to keep costs down, you can use a B450 board with Ryzen 3000 chips . @GIGA-Man has stated for Gigabyte that they can collect new boards that might not have latest bios and flash them . I believe there was a little more time before ryzen 2000 was announced from ryzen 1000 so vendors/sellers had more time to clear old stock of have bios's updated (meant sending off old stock for new stock) though some slipped through the net and Gigabyte I believe ended up flashing quite a bit, think they actaully sent in a team to OCUK to flash B350/X37- boards with ryzen 2*** bundle deals.

Resellers like OCUK also could flash BIOS of boards for an extra charge, they and others did do this but not during new product launch period. this was their busiest time period bar black friday/xmas and didnt have the staff to cover it , was about £20 odd . So if you like MSI or others, this is an option
 
orbitalwalsh said:
smooth! with free delivery, could be some good sale prices on certain parts before full core bundle :D

@evertonhero

if you want to keep costs down, you can use a B450 board with Ryzen 3000 chips . @GIGA-Man has stated for Gigabyte that they can collect new boards that might not have latest bios and flash them . I believe there was a little more time before ryzen 2000 was announced from ryzen 1000 so vendors/sellers had more time to clear old stock of have bios's updated (meant sending off old stock for new stock) though some slipped through the net and Gigabyte I believe ended up flashing quite a bit, think they actaully sent in a team to OCUK to flash B350/X37- boards with ryzen 2*** bundle deals.

Resellers like OCUK also could flash BIOS of boards for an extra charge, they and others did do this but not during new product launch period. this was their busiest time period bar black friday/xmas and didnt have the staff to cover it , was about £20 odd . So if you like MSI or others, this is an option
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I think I see what you are getting at about the flashing could be worthwhile

I will probably end up with the b450 as the wifi is a big boost, but ifs theres a great mobo that would be worthwhile getting and a seperate wifi adapter i would be open to options.

My heads saying 2070 but my hearts saying 2080.

Also a friend in work has a titan x pascal he has hinted he would want to sell to me if i was interested he has had 2 in sli and plays battlefield regularly on it. Would you guys be tempted for this or stay away

Also the budget is a loose 1000 probably upto 1500 at max if it is justified im keeping my options open not to restrricted
 
Hey guys looking to get this sorted pretty soon now i dont fancy waiting till 7/7 for better gen ill just update again in the future.

Just to update where i am now..

I have 27" 1440 144hz freesync monitor
Psu - TX650m corsair
Fractal meshify c midi tower on its way.
Keyb an mouse sorted already.

Thats about it....

I been heavily leaning towards this...

Rtx2080 gigabyte (can get brand new for £620)

2600x £150-170(+2 games)

B450 pro carbon ( i need the wifi) £110

Any dd4 3200 16gb ram £80-90

Ssd -1tb £95-100

Will use stock cooler for now not fussed about oc etc


I have since saw the 9600k and it looks pretty solid so would be tempted to jump onto that but i dont know if it will be worth it as a suitable mobo with wifi or seperate wifi adapter raises the cost a bit

Any advice guideance will be appreciated.
 
evertonhero said:
Will use stock cooler for now not fussed about oc etc
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The 2700 is on offer but if you're not clocking then the 2600X would still be chip of of choice if not streaming due to higher boost - until you slot in a Zen 2, which you could easily do in the future. (2600X relatively expensive - but comes with 2 free games which you can sell on if you don't need them, to offset build cost)

Personally, i wouldn't choose the 9600K purely as this limits your upgrade path (but it is a solid gaming CPU) - but if you went down this route it's ripe for clocking.

What is the 2080 you can get for £620? Ideally, you would get a card with a decent guarantee due to known issues.

I've added a 2070 just for price comparison and is a solid match with 1440p 144Hz gaming if you wanted to save money.

You may want to consider a third party cooler as it's will provide quieter running - plus better clocking opportunities if you decide to go down that route in the future:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £990.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)


You could easily sub out the memory for these cheaper 3000MHz sticks on sale:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Plec said:
The 2700 is on offer but if you're not clocking then the 2600X would still be chip of of choice if not streaming due to higher boost - until you slot in a Zen 2, which you could easily do in the future. (2600X relatively expensive - but comes with 2 free games which you can sell on if you don't need them, to offset build cost)

Personally, i wouldn't choose the 9600K purely as this limits your upgrade path (but it is a solid gaming CPU) - but if you went down this route it's ripe for clocking.

What is the 2080 you can get for £620? Ideally, you would get a card with a decent guarantee due to known issues.

I've added a 2070 just for price comparison and is a solid match with 1440p 144Hz gaming if you wanted to save money.

You may want to consider a third party cooler as it's will provide quieter running - plus better clocking opportunities if you decide to go down that route in the future:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £990.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)


You could easily sub out the memory for these cheaper 3000MHz sticks on sale:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Yeah that looks pretty sweet mate think im going to go for it...its a
GIGABYTE RTX 2080 GAMING OC 8G FH.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1a2-gi.html
It has 3 fans on it and seems good reviews

How does the warranty work with it. Is it based thru the site you buy it from or do you register with them when you open it up...
 
evertonhero said:
Yeah that looks pretty sweet mate think im going to go for it...its a
GIGABYTE RTX 2080 GAMING OC 8G FH.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-gaming-oc-8192mb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1a2-gi.html
It has 3 fans on it and seems good reviews

How does the warranty work with it. Is it based thru the site you buy it from or do you register with them when you open it up...
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Gigabyte, is a great brand.

The first year you deal with OcUK - and Gigabyte have a great forum representation in @GIGA-Man. He's really helpful in resolving tricky issues, and if you had a problem he will try his best to resolve any problems you may have - within reason (he's gone above and beyond for some members in the past). Plus, Gigabyte have an UK RMA so once you're into your second year you will still have a very quick turn around, comparatively, to other brands (for instance had you said it was an Asus 2080 i would have warned you of their god awful customer service as you are buying a card with known issues - re memory (but these are appearing less and less)).
 
Plec said:
Gigabyte, is a great brand.

The first year you deal with OcUK - and Gigabyte have a great forum representation in @GIGA-Man. He's really helpful in resolving tricky issues, and if you had a problem he will try his best to resolve any problems you may have - within reason (he's gone above and beyond for some members in the past). Plus, Gigabyte have an UK RMA so once you're into your second year you will still have a very quick turn around, comparatively, to other brands (for instance had you said it was an Asus 2080 i would have warned you of their god awful customer service as you are buying a card with known issues - re memory (but these are appearing less and less)).
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Sounds great and build looks solid thanks for the help.

If i was to buy the same card from another store does that change the warranty? Is it store specific or manufacturer specific, iv saw gigaman around aswell a massive help for the forums good to know
 
evertonhero said:
If i was to buy the same card from another store does that change the warranty? Is it store specific or manufacturer specific, iv saw gigaman around aswell a massive help for the forums good to know
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You, usually deal with retailer for the first year as should be easier - sometimes a straight swap out (think OcUK - send card back to manufacturer for you). Then once you hit products guarantee 'proper' (second year) you then deal with the brand directly (you need to keep e-receipt/proof of purchase).

With some cards, like Zotac, you need to register the card for an extended guarantee - but the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty as standard.
 
Plec said:
You, usually deal with retailer for the first year as should be easier - sometimes a straight swap out (think OcUK - send card back to manufacturer for you). Then once you hit products guarantee 'proper' (second year) you then deal with the brand directly (you need to keep e-receipt/proof of purchase).

With some cards, like Zotac, you need to register the card for an extended guarantee - but the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty as standard.
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Brilliant thanks again
Think ill get ordering some parts tonight
 
Plec said:
The 2700 is on offer but if you're not clocking then the 2600X would still be chip of of choice if not streaming due to higher boost
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Forum is in Finnish, but meaning of graph should be obvious for showing how 2700 fails to maintain boost clocks after more than one fully loaded thread because of hitting TDP wall.
https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/amd-...nometrin-uutuuksia.175886/page-4#post-5106358

Even basic 2600 maintains boost clocks better after certain amount of loaded threads because of lower power consumption and likely better silicon for enabled/non-disabled cores:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/16.html
 
EsaT said:
Forum is in Finnish, but meaning of graph should be obvious for showing how 2700 fails to maintain boost clocks after more than one fully loaded thread because of hitting TDP wall.
https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/amd-...nometrin-uutuuksia.175886/page-4#post-5106358

Even basic 2600 maintains boost clocks better after certain amount of loaded threads because of lower power consumption and likely better silicon for enabled/non-disabled cores:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/16.html
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Plec said:
Quick question - will you be streaming?
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Yeah, I was only interested in the 2700 if he was streaming - but graph is a good representation of performance.


*i'm no linguist, @EsaT, but how did you learn English when your base language is that? With some languages you can pick out some words - but literally all i can recognise is 'Ryzen' and the 'universal acronyms'. Are you self taught - or school/uni?
 
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EsaT said:
Forum is in Finnish, but meaning of graph should be obvious for showing how 2700 fails to maintain boost clocks after more than one fully loaded thread because of hitting TDP wall.
https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/amd-...nometrin-uutuuksia.175886/page-4#post-5106358

Even basic 2600 maintains boost clocks better after certain amount of loaded threads because of lower power consumption and likely better silicon for enabled/non-disabled cores:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/16.html
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appreciate the comments but i literally know zero about overclocking so even the bits in english and the charts might aswell be foreign language to me !

im happy to leave running as stock until i feel like theres a problem then i would think about pushing for a upgrade or overclocking :confused:
 
evertonhero said:
i appreciate the comments but i literally know zero about overclocking so even the bits in english and the charts might aswell be foreign language to me !

im happy to leave running as stock until i feel like theres a problem then i would think about pushing for a upgrade or overclocking :confused:
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It's OK, EsaT was validating the choice of the 2600X - so all good.

When i asked about the 2700 - it was in relation to streaming (extra cores may have come in handy) - but the 2600X was obvious choice for just gaming - as chart shows.

Breathe easy...
 
evertonhero said:
i appreciate the comments but i literally know zero about overclocking
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When not overclocking what matters is high boost clocks.
And 2700's boost clocks are simply handicapped by its low TDP ceiling after number of loaded threads rises over one or two.

Another thing when wanting best performance without manual overclocking is making sure CPU cooling is adequate.
Temperature is big factor in how high PBO and XFR "auto overclock" CPU.
https://community.amd.com/community...precision-boost-overdrive-in-three-easy-steps



Plec said:
*i'm no linguist, @EsaT, but how did you learn English when your base language is that? With some languages you can pick out some words - but literally all i can recognise is 'Ryzen' and the 'universal acronyms'. Are you self taught - or school/uni?
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Teaching of english language started in school pretty early. (at least nowadays third grade)
But main thing is that PC hobby and gaming (+internet) is good for continuing school's work.
Hard to remember and learn something, if you never use it.
Remember like dozen words of that "second native language" everyone is supposed to know, Swedish...
Because in most of the country there's zero use for language, which is actual only language for just few percents of the population and should have no business of being forced to 90+% of population.
Foreign language with easiest to find speakers would be actually Russian, border is ~10km away.
 
EsaT said:
Teaching of english language started in school pretty early. (at least nowadays third grade)
But main thing is that PC hobby and gaming (+internet) is good for continuing school's work.
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Impressive - we Brits are renowned for our lack of ability (laziness) for learning languages. Suspect it's because mainland continent takes up our slack and saves us the need. I still regret not pursuing a second language - but have a feeling i would have failed dismally at Finnish.

EsaT said:
Foreign language with easiest to find speakers would be actually Russian, border is ~10km away.
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I thought that would be a handy language to learn for when they annex you?
 
annddd breath whats done is done.....everything ordered

1 x MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £110
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £168 + 2 games
1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3333MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX433C16PB3K2/16)= £89.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £620
1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £98.99
1 x meshify £75
1 x PSU corsair TX650m - £55
1 x monitor 144hz 27" 1440p £235

Total Roughly £1450 with 2 games to Sell


now we wait for the fun to begin
 
thanks for the help again :) i willl put plenty of photos up when it arrives :) hopefully be a beast of a rig....


bit of a improvement from my gt72 2qe 980m laptop iv had for a few years anyway haha
 
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