17 year old girl allowed to kill herself Legally

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She was no doubt telling them she'd do it anyway (and proving it with lack of eating is a particularly good way of showing that), probably with the risk of failing and becoming a vegetable or dying painfully.

Plenty of child rape victims either kill themselves or live a life of isolation and depression anyway, with almost literally no prospect of resolution. I dont feel the state should administer it, but it's paradoxical, as you'd then be admitting she should die in a more painful manner or suffer for the rest of her life, so i guess i have no opinion either way and just hope it was relief for her.

I'm glad that mental illness is being respected as it should be, unfortunately the treatment for child abuse is probably never going to be found.
 
Such a sad case and it feels wrong because it’s upsetting but my logic says it was her life and she has every right to cease to exist ,I think it’s a bit cruel of the people who would rather keep another human alive if they’re in such pain.
 
I was shocked when i read the article as well,So young she had the rest of her life ahead of her,just sad that nobody could have changed her mind,But end of the day its what she wanted,after what shed been through she deserved that at least,may she rest in peace.
 
Malevolence said:
Her life, her choice.
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Agree. Though I hope her loved ones have come to terms with it and do not suffer too much as a result.

It’s a shame she couldn’t get the help she needed and had to resort to this as the only cure.

Only the living suffer as a result of death.
 
Completely agree.
Of she really wants to kill herself then she should be allowed to..you don't do this unless you are really sure. She's not done depressed teenager. She is capable at 17 of choosing.

We place to much value on keeping people alive who don't want to be I get that from a pushing people to die to inherit sort of thing. But people who genuinely want to die should be allowed to.

Better to feel nothing than misery

If you aren't religious or doesn't matter if you die now or later really. You won't remember anything either way.
 
Cromulent said:
If you've never experienced depression you wouldn't understand.
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This.


Also at what age does it become ok. Is 17 too young but all of a sudden 18 is fine as she's officially an adult in society.

If she wants to go, let her. Imagine forcing someone to exist against their own will. Bizarre.
 
Stumble Bum said:
This.


Also at what age does it become ok. Is 17 too young but all of a sudden 18 is fine as she's officially an adult in society.

If she wants to go, let her. Imagine forcing someone to exist against their own will. Bizarre.
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I have traits of depression and I can completely see why someone with severe depression or significant disability would want to end it.
 
413x said:
I have traits of depression and I can completely see why someone with severe depression or significant disability would want to end it.
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Ive had it too. But if youve had it and come out the other side then you should also see that choosing to end your life would have been the wrong decision.

Im afraid i cant agree with this one. I can understand in cases of terminal illness. With the right help (and this would raise a question about funding the right help) im sure she could have got over the issues, at least enough to live a productive life.
 
danlightbulb said:
Ive had it too. But if youve had it and come out the other side then you should also see that choosing to end your life would have been the wrong decision.

Im afraid i cant agree with this one. I can understand in cases of terminal illness. With the right help (and this would raise a question about funding the right help) im sure she could have got over the issues, at least enough to live a productive life.
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Mine was /is very mild. Not everyone has it so easy.

I had a supportive job, supportive family and friends.
Even with all that it wasn't easy and still needs checking.
If I was disabled physically I'd also want same as this girl. Without a the outdoors sports I do I'd be a mess.

Still I think you are overvaluing life. Its her decision and she wanted it at the time.doesn't matter if she could or couldn't get over it. So do some live in misery.she thinks the latter
 
I agree with it. It's about time we ended the barbaric "you have to live until the bitter end" belief too.People should have a choice.
Dogs get treated more humanely.
She did't kill herself though :). That's what this helps to stop - an horrible, horrible self-suicide(such as hanging).
It's a shame depression led to it though but she saw no way out it seems after plenty of help. It's a shame those who raped her weren't put down a long time before.

The planet is heavily populated and is not always a nice place to be. If someone no longer wants to participate, and after of course very careful consideration, assisted suicide should be allowed.
 
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danlightbulb said:
Ive had it too. But if youve had it and come out the other side then you should also see that choosing to end your life would have been the wrong decision.

Im afraid i cant agree with this one. I can understand in cases of terminal illness. With the right help (and this would raise a question about funding the right help) im sure she could have got over the issues, at least enough to live a productive life.
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"productive life" is another one of those meaningless catchphrases.
I think everyone goes or has gone through a bout of depression, i certainly do, I've had days where i literally can't see the point to anything. It's only the effect it will have on your survivors that really matters. i don't think there is a person alive that won't go through it too.

I'm not picking on you, just the idea of what a "productive" life is... crap out a couple of kids, work 60 years in a plastics factory, own a house, retire at 90, die.

Ive decided that i probably don't want kids, i will regret this when im older for sure. Surely having kids is one of the only reasons to exist....
 
Efour said:
"productive life" is another one of those meaningless catchphrases.
I think everyone goes or has gone through a bout of depression, i certainly do, I've had days where i literally can't see the point to anything. It's only the effect it will have on your survivors that really matters. i don't think there is a person alive that won't go through it too.

I'm not picking on you, just the idea of what a "productive" life is... crap out a couple of kids, work 60 years in a plastics factory, own a house, retire at 90, die.

Ive decided that i probably don't want kids, i will regret this when im older for sure. Surely having kids is one of the only reasons to exist....
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I start to wonder if many need to have kids to give their lives meaning . If you are responsible for someone you feel you serve a 'purpose' I also don't want kids and as I get older and less able I'm sure I wonder 'what's the point' more and more
 
413x said:
I start to wonder if many need to have kids to give their lives meaning . If you are responsible for someone you feel you serve a 'purpose' I also don't want kids and as I get older and less able I'm sure I wonder 'what's the point' more and more
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What's the point? It's what ever you want it to be.
I guess at it's most basic the point is to survive so having kids is the point.
But nothing wrong with your point being to enjoy life doing things that make you happy.

I can certainly see why people want to end it, life can throw up some big challenges, if it was only me is have happily ended it last year when i went through a very tough patch. The thing holding me together was family, friends and that deep feeling of survival and hope.
 
What she has been though, very few people will understand. If she sees no way forward then that's her decision to make.

It's sad, it's a waste, but assisted suicide should be more widly available so people who don't want to go on, can have a painless way to go.
 
People also forget that allowing this gives a potential point of discussion between family/friends/professionals and the victim, the vast majority of suicides... they don't get that chance to save them or at least... say goodbye.

Had her abuse been caught early, i'm sure something could have been done, but rightly or wrongly she hid it away (out of shame, i'd hazard), which let it build to a point of being what defined her existence, a childs mental growth is incredibly important for their ability to live, if it had such a tormenting event scarred into it without any real help, i'm sure it could be terminal.
 
Efour said:
I'm not picking on you, just the idea of what a "productive" life is... crap out a couple of kids, work 60 years in a plastics factory, own a house, retire at 90, die.
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Productive was maybe the wrong word as that makes it sound like it's for someone else rather than for you. Satisfying would maybe be a better word.

Just for sake of argument, and i know this wouldnt be a practical solution at least not for more than a small number, but what if this girl could have been given an alternative such as going to live in a hot country near the sea and being given a job looking after animals in a sanctuary. Now I am maybe simplifying the problem and obviously who is going to fund that, but would the offer of a new life been enough for her not to end hers?
 
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