MSI MAX motherboards 32Mb ROM

.... Completely put me off ever buying MSI again.
I'm been in this industry long enough to know that every motherboard manufacture screws up at some time so I never let that put me off buying their product again.

What is true is that the MSI 450 boards were widely regarded as the best in category irrespective of the decent price. I suspect this glitch also has a CPU variable that MSI need to account for. Hopefully it will be a matter of weeks for them to iron it out though in the meantime it is severely frustrating for those with components not playing nice with each other.
 
I would not be too concerned about waiting for or getting the MAX. If both boards are available and at the same price then may as well get the MAX but realise that the only difference is the large bios chips which basically only allows all older CPU's (which most people don't have) to be supported as the same time as new chips.

If you're getting a new Ryzen CPU then just get which ever board is available and cheapest as they will behave exactly the same way.
Yeah but later on the 4th series might be support if the BIOS chip is bigger, all they've gotta do is drop 1st gen support for the extra space.
 
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Yeah but later on the 4th series might be support if the BIOS chip is bigger, all they've gotta do is drop 1st gen support for the extra space.
If you're seriously hoping the Max boards are going to work nicely with Zen3 when they don't even work properly with Zen2 yet then you're barking up the wrong tree.
 
Yeah, I don't know what do do now. I'm not buying a B450 board until the whole BIOS/MAX situation is resolved, which either leaves me with buying an X570, which I think are far too expensive (IMO, relatively speaking) or just going for Intel. It's put a massive dampener on the launch for me.
 
It's a good idea to wait for the 32MB MAX editions if you are going MSI because that should fix any bios issues that could come up when for example the Ryzen 4000 series arrives.
The MAX boards also have out of the box support for the new Ryzen 3000 series, so you don't have to fiddle with updating the bios first to get the new Ryzen CPU's working.
 
Sounds like a comment from someone who had a bad experience with an MSI board and is letting that cloud their thinking.
 
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Yeah, I don't know what do do now. I'm not buying a B450 board until the whole BIOS/MAX situation is resolved, which either leaves me with buying an X570, which I think are far too expensive (IMO, relatively speaking) or just going for Intel. It's put a massive dampener on the launch for me.
I was looking at X570 for the same reason. Problem is, I'd want to go for one with WiFi, and the cheapest option has terrible WiFi. So I'm left having to wait for a B450 MAX and a WiFi card, or wait even longer for a B450 MAX with WiFi. It is proper annoying as the rest of my build is waiting for it.
 
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If you're seriously hoping the Max boards are going to work nicely with Zen3 when they don't even work properly with Zen2 yet then you're barking up the wrong tree.
I'm not hoping at all, just saying it's possible, the reason why the board is struggling is because the BIOS chip isn't big enough, with MAX they'll double the size which means Zen 2 will fit on easily and with 1st gen support dropped 4th gen Ryzen could work, theoretically. We all know if you're wanting next gen support then the X570 is easily the go to, with PCI-E 4.0 and better BIOS.
 
The max boards are not even out yet, how are they not working
Why do you think they haven't announced a release date? What I'm saying is they're bringing out these boards ostensibly to allow both Zen 2 support and the graphical Bios interface. They haven't set a release date because the Zen 2 support isn't there yet.

So yes, when they are eventually released they will support Zen 2 out of the box, but you'll be in exactly the same position as current non-max version owners currently are once Zen 3 is out and they're trying to implement support for that.

It might be fine, but personally I wouldn't make a build around an MSI B450 if I was counting on it to support Zen 3.
 
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It seems the new B450 Tomahawk MAX is finally starting to arrive in shops but we will probably see much wider availability in the coming days.
 
A shop in Denmark has it on preorder for around the original B450 Tomahawk price so I assume the price will come down soon.
Btw links to other shops is not allowed on the forum so you might want to edit out the link.
 
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