I might have lent some credence if they had been forced into territorial waters, but it just seems they're either dumb/didn't know/lying about not knowing about sanctions, it was out of the strait when it was boarded, and so neutrality doesn't apply.
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I might have lent some credence if they had been forced into territorial waters, but it just seems they're either dumb/didn't know/lying about not knowing about sanctions, it was out of the strait when it was boarded, and so neutrality doesn't apply.
He's just miffed because status/not losing face is important in his culture and despite telling them that he's the "master" the marines gave zero ****s and told him to wind his neck in and get on his knees.
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Erm because you're smuggling fuel for the benefit of a tyrant in an active war zone where colleagues of the people then pointing their weapons at you have been fighting... you absolute donut!
As for not knowing about EU sanctions on Syria, he seemed to be aware of the US sanctions on Iran, funny how he turned off the ship's AIS transponder for 10 days when loading the fuel.
Yup, he's completely wrong, but simply things like facts and reality doesn't tend to stop him or the various other CT types who have posted utter nonsense in this thread from carrying on doing so.
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Gibraltar is a damn crossing like the Channel, Bosporus, Strait of Hormuz and under the International Marinetime Law for safe passage.
With the same idiocy that you apply your "own" explanation to the rules, Iran can apply it to the Strait of Hormuz. But when it did so, you cry like little girls they took your toy unicorn.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the transit passage law regarding areas where coastal waters cover the entire area or adjoin another area so there is no international waters inbetween. This then gives the ships the right of transit through that area as if they were in international waters.
This map would seem to be relevant then
So the right of transit in this case would be through the Spanish & Moroccan territorial waters from one side of the high seas to the other.
I can't see how that would be the case for Gibraltar territorial waters since they are surrounded by international waters
I see that even after being told that you're wrong you're too lazy to even look at a map. You seem to be struggling with English again too, Gibraltar is a peninsula it isn't a "damn crossing like the Channel". You're seemingly confusing the Strait of Gibraltar with the British territory of Gibraltar, they're rather different things!
The idiocy here isn't coming from me.
Again, just check some basic facts before typing next time, namely look at where the strait is, look at where the right of transit passage needs to be applied and look at where the ship was boarded:
^^^^ Gibraltar's territorial waters...
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Precisely. It's plausible the crew didn't know although highly unlikely the captain himself didn't. The operators however would certainly know!
It would have ostensibly been released by now if Iran had given certain assurances and/or under the extended detention in approx. 10 days from now. I'm not sure if it will be held beyond that as part of negotiations with Iran over Stena Impero.
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Agent Orange . . . or his British proxy
I can see entirely why the Spanish want the return of Gibraltar.
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Lol.Agent Orange . . . or his British proxy
I can see entirely why the Spanish want the return of Gibraltar.
What about Ceuta?
Well they can't just make up a buyer, they'd need an actual entity etc... Ukraine isn't in the Mediterranean for a start.
Ukraine might not be in the Med, but you'd have a hard time getting there otherwise in a ship... i'm sure Iran and Syria's main bro Putin could "buy" it through a shell corp.
I'm not sure they like Putin much in Ukraine, but assuming he did have a company there that could buy it then sure, the ship could have been let go already.
The US would, of course, be very interested in the company that was buying it.
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Ssh, the Spanish would like you to not mention that when Gibraltar is being talked about.
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Don’t forget Melilla too.
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State TV quoted by Reuters reports that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps' naval forces have "seized a foreign tanker in the Persian Gulf that was smuggling fuel for some Arab countries".
I can't see this ending well
I can't see this ending well