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Another "deeply disturbed" column from the Murdoch stable.
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As opposed to Greta who demands a 'radical response' to climate change
And who had the following to say
If only we had examples of previous attempts to radically change the whole political system to the sort of centrally planned command economy that Greta alludes to....
Oh that's right we do have examples... and they have all been a total distater after no more than a couple of decades not only for the populace but also for the enviroment. Large swathes of the former USSR are heavily polluted wastelands and lake Maracaibo in Venezuela is one of the most polluted lakes in the world.
Command economies (dare I mention the socialist word?) often start out with laudable aims in mind by idealists pushing for thrm but given the authoritarian goverments required for such systes inevitably become corrupted by some of the most despotic people that can get inside the system.
I do wonder whether all the people attacking Bolt have considered the consequences of providing a child diagnosed with ADHD and autism (amongst other diagnoses) such attention and adulation given that once shes in her 20`s she will have likely lost most of her current USP ans will just be another climate protestor albeit with a slightly more illustrious past.
The history of other people, so heavily feted by adults as children, isn't great when they themsleves turn into adults and the attention and adulation starts to wane.
Any person might be expected to suffer adversely from such a change regardless of any existing issues. I cant see Greta's diagnoses making it less likely she may have an adverse reaction to changes as she matures.
That's a lot of words to defend a system that has brought the world to this stage and attack someone and not their argument.
The alternative has been shown to be even more of a **** show both for humans and the enviroment.
The argument that we need to institute a command economy to sort out the enviroment/ climate is a broken flush promoted only people who are ignorant or evil.
I wasn't attacking Greta rather the dubious adults that currently lavish her with adulation who are not that likely to continue when she comes just another 20 something climate activist.
When?
What alternative are you talking about? Have we tried EVERY option out there?
Does our current situation not mean that we should explore different ways, I mean, insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
The fact that you call people who want to stop climate change evil, however, means this is a discussion not worth having with you.
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Whilst the youth of today ululate over this child's fervour, here is their parting gift to the environment after Glastonbury, and here as well is a link to countless other rock concerts' detritus, where no doubt the crowds shout their disapproval of damage to the environment between snorting gaseous and powdery narcotics, whilst trashing the scene of their excesses.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?lr=...&ved=0ahUKEwiLu5r7sOfjAhUSuHEKHRQnDQQQ4dUDCAY
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?lr=...&ved=0ahUKEwiLu5r7sOfjAhUSuHEKHRQnDQQQ4dUDCAY
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A command economy.
How predictable....
You think you could run a successful command economy that wouldn't become despotic and likely corrupt even its intial founding goals to the point that they are worse that the alternative it sought to fix.
The issue with command economies aren't that they haven't yet been done right.... The problem is inherent to the idea itself.
says the person tacitly suggesting we give a command economy another go because this time we will get it right?
People that so excessively use children to promote political aims are evil in my view regardless of the poltical aims and their respective merits or lack thereof.
A lot of assumptions and some deflection from your earlier attempt to cast aspersions as to the validity of someone's views because they're autistic. Still a lot of words to say not a lot
*Because they are a child* not because they are autistic.
Having a diagnosis of things like ADHD and autism is however likely to make a transition from feted minor child celebrity to adult nobody that bit harder and maybe more severe for the subject.
Greta isn't saying anything new. The only reason to promote her over more qualified alternatives as a spokesperson for a cause is cynical exploitation of the appeal of the youth of a child.
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So her message is a good one, you just disagree with the way as child is being exploited?
How can you argue she's being exploited and also, elsewhere, that she deserves what she gets for having the audacity to speak out?
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Is your opposition to the idea that we should do something about climate change based on:
- your belief that is is all a myth dreamt up by left-wing environmentalists
- your belief that we are all doomed and we should just give up
- your belief that it will not affect you in your lifetime and you don't want to stop fiddling while the earth burns
- Greta is younger than you and you are overcome with jealousy
Arguing for radical changes to completely change how politics works is a bad idea with an awful history.
You seem to just be making **** up now.
When I have I said she deserves what may happen to her?
Its the adults I blame the most.
All I have said is you can't simultaneously expect a child to be taken seriously in politics and then wheel out the child defense when their ideas get criticised or they receive similar ridicule as anyone else would receive.
My criticism with regards to the choice of messenger is mostly of the cynical adults enabling her not Greta herself.
I disagree with the proposed solutions regardless of the messenger.
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What are your solutions?
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A very fair question.
My opposition to Greta's 'solution' (which isn't unique to her by a long shot and she wasn't the first to propose it) is that it's been tried and failed.... Repeatedly
Human impact on the planet is an issue. But the solutions proposed are often bad ones.
There aren't easy one's
Best hope is to do what can reasonably be done, within a market economy structure, to mitigate human impact and invest heavily in technologies to seek to further reduce the impact of human activity on the globe all whilst seeking to stabilise the overall human population numbers.
Not being able to provide an ideal or sure fire solution or set of soloutioms for a problem doesn't mean I can't spot a very bad proposal for the issue.
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No it's not.
For example I might not know how to cure a tumor in your brain but I know chopping of your head will be a terrible cure.
Not having all the answers doesn't mean you can't spot bad solutions.
It just means the solutions don't meet your world view so you dismiss them even though there is no other proposal being made. Not by you or by anybody.
The often propesed solution (command economies) has been tried and failed.... Repeatedly
Sometimes there aren't straightforward or total solutions to problems.
I have provided some actions that can be taken.
Whilst the youth of today ululate over this child's fervour, here is their parting gift to the environment after Glastonbury, and here as well is a link to countless other rock concerts' detritus, where no doubt the crowds shout their disapproval of damage to the environment between snorting gaseous and powdery narcotics, whilst trashing the scene of their excesses.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?lr=...&ved=0ahUKEwiLu5r7sOfjAhUSuHEKHRQnDQQQ4dUDCAY
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One of the best solution to youthful over exuberance about an issue like activism for the enviroment is to make them (apart from everyone else) live through the consequences of the policies they would agitate for.
Greta may be well connected enough to swan across the Atlantic in a yacht but most, less well connected, people had better be ready for a rather drastic change to their lifestyle if we are to take their activism seriously.
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