Is there a war brewing with youtubers?

Diddums said:
I wish my life was as simple as yours, everything would be so easy :D
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Making things needlessly complex is a time waster, it really is as simple as saying "no", youtube isn't a necessity in life, even to youtubers, they're just angry their job limitations have changed, the perils of working with a monopoly.

It's the same do nothing attitude that has people groveling to the establishment when their engineered bias is excited and pointed at an "other", when there's no leverage, there's no freedom.
 
History youtubers educating people about world war 2 are getting demonetised because it includes the subject of the Nazis. It's ridiculous.
 
Anyone can put a claim in and that video gets automatically demonetised, which I think is terrible.

For instance, I could go and make a claim on 10x LinusTechTips videos and they’d instantly lose all money on those videos. I’m not sure if that would mean I get the revenue instead but I believe that’s how it works.

The fact that the creators cannot appeal is terrible. A few of the channels I watch include guitar lessons / tutorials.. some have had videos taken down because the track they are trying to teach triggers the digital audio footprint robots to submit a claim. Crazy times, when 99% of the video is a chap talking and demonstrating music at 1/5th normal speed. To be clear, the actual recording is never played (admittedly there’s performance copyright but I would assume this doesn’t apply under the “fair use” for education).

I sympathise but I also don’t know how Youtube could change things without adding a layer of human review to the process?
 
LuckyBenski said:
Exactly that - add a layer of human review!
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Easier said that done? The volume of videos added to YouTube every day is staggering... with bots submitting claims, the review process could take weeks by which time the content is useless... it could work if they agree to back date payments or “freeze” payments when a claim is made.
 
FoxEye said:
I don't think you even read my post before going on the defensive. Heh.
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There no interpretation required, you're implying that creators on Youtube are a bunch of leeches? I guess you're jealous they actually made something of themselves while you stew in a toxic broth of self-pity and righteous indignation?
 
Suicidal Ferret said:
The fact you think they've made something of themselves because they are on YT is laughable
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If they've single handedly attracted a bigger audience than most TV channels or newspapers then yeah, they've done pretty well and have certainly made something of themselves.

Some of the top youtubers have a regular audience that rivals the highest figures for prime time BBC1 or ITV shows.

Edit - the most watched UK broadcast was England vs Germany in 1996 with 32 million views, most watched US TV broadcast was the Super Bowl in 2015 with 114 million views, Pewdiepie's most viewed video has 205 million views!

Highly paid athletes, stadiums full of people, a massive sporting event broadcast to an entire nation... and some bloke in his spare room has a greater reach. Yes I think they've made something of themselves.
 
diamount said:
There no interpretation required, you're implying that creators on Youtube are a bunch of leeches? I guess you're jealous they actually made something of themselves while you stew in a toxic broth of self-pity and righteous indignation?
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You definitely didn't read my post. Why bother replying if you're not even going to read what you're replying to?

Doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Does it matter if someone is making £50k a year from YouTube or being employed by a company? If you’re happy doing what you enjoy then you’re a winner.

Personally, I’d be worried about longevity if I was an up and coming YouTube “star”. If I had 2M+ subscribers I’d feel confident that I could take my product to the next platform (should google kill YouTube)
 
dowie said:
Highly paid athletes, stadiums full of people, a massive sporting event broadcast to an entire nation... and some bloke in his spare room has a greater reach. Yes I think they've made something of themselves.
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I think we should differentiate between "made a lot of money" and "made something of themselves".

On YT you can make decent money doing pretty random stuff.

Apparently some girl made a $million just recording herself eating.

Did she make something of herself?

If you sell a kidney for $1 million have you made something of yourself? (silly example but you get the gist).

I would argue that money alone does not guarantee a legacy, and sure "making something of yourself" implies you'll leave some kind of legacy. Or that you achieved something worthwhile in life. Or maybe I'm just wrong and money is the only thing we're prepared to measure/value.
 
FoxEye said:
I think we should differentiate between "made a lot of money" and "made something of themselves".
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My emphasis there was on the audience they'd attracted and maintained being bigger than that achieved by professional media comapnies/major TV channels in some cases. I've not mentioned how much money youtubers earn in that post.

If you regularly create entertaining content, liked and viewed regularly by millions of people from around the world then yes, I'd say you've made something of yourself.

In fact as far as entertainers/artists/creators are concerned you're in the top 0.1%.
 
dowie said:
My emphasis there was on the audience they'd attracted and maintained being bigger than that achieved by professional media comapnies/major TV channels in some cases. I've not mentioned how much money youtubers earn in that post.

If you regularly create entertaining content, liked and viewed regularly by millions of people from around the world then yes, I'd say you've made something of yourself.

In fact as far as entertainers/artists/creators are concerned you're in the top 0.1%.
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Look at this

https://www.businessinsider.com/mukbang-influencers-youtube-money-six-figures-2019-4?r=US&IR=T

Woman eats tons of food on YT... gets fat, makes millions.

You're saying this is a good thing, and only likes + money is important? She's now a top 0.1% "entertainer" for this?

If so, please stop the world, I want to get off.
 
diamount said:
Breakdown exactly what doesn't make sense because being obtuse is another tactic of yours.
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Anyone who reads my post - except you, apparently - will not interpret it as an attack on all YT content creators. Because it obviously wasn't.

You have a bee in your bonnet about me, that's clear. Read it again. I'm not going to quote my own post. You can just scroll back and actually read it properly.

Then stop being a **** and spinning it to mean something it doesn't.
 
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