Why does every phone other than the iPhone come with android?

Yes I read the thread. Thanks for the advice though.

You mustn't have done replying how you did.
It's got nothing to do with disagreeing with him, the post was having a go at Android users and only wanting to regulate Android.
Fair enough if he'd picked on both iOS and Android.
 
You mustn't have done replying how you did.

Fair enough if he'd picked on both iOS and Android.

Mrochester is a known iPhone-o-phile but he did at least engage with the discussion by saying that he’d prefer to pay for services rather than have his privacy breached. It’s a reasonable point that doesn’t need to be shouted down with “lolz do u kno how much it costs 2 runs a dater senter?” response repeated several times.
 
Mrochester is a known iPhone-o-phile but he did at least engage with the discussion by saying that he’d prefer to pay for services rather than have his privacy breached. It’s a reasonable point that doesn’t need to be shouted down with “lolz do u kno how much it costs 2 runs a dater senter?” response repeated several times.

He completely failed by only having a go at Android and that's why somebody said he was as dumb as a fence post.
Anyway, if you want to defend his blatant trolling then go for it.
 
Exactly, people should stop allowing android to be the default and only choice other than iOS by stopping buying android devices. It’s a sorry state of affairs that people so willingly roll over and let google take them for a ride.

We should be much much more demanding!

What phone do you have?

No one is going to want to have a naff option. And that's the thing. These companies have monopolies and nothing can now get a foot in.

Its not a bad thing. If you had 4 OSs you'd probably be limited to phones you could purchase..

I actually like the system we have now.

Apple people can keep buying and having that limited choice and the fashion accessory etc. Where as android users get more choice.

Thing that makes android good is you can pick up new hardware and essentially be in your old ecosystem, apps, accounts instantly. What a chore it would be to have to do all that again.

It has to be this way.

You'll always have 2 Big players and that's enough
 
Bugger, I wanted him to explain why he wants the Government to step in and do something about Android but not iOS!!!

android holds a monopoly position
You mustn't have done replying how you did.
It's got nothing to do with disagreeing with him, the post was having a go at Android users and only wanting to regulate Android.
Fair enough if he'd picked on both iOS and Android.

There’s no need to regulate iOS it isn’t available for other devices outside of Apple.
You mustn't have done replying how you did.
It's got nothing to do with disagreeing with him, the post was having a go at Android users and only wanting to regulate Android.
Fair enough if he'd picked on both iOS and Android.

Im not sure what would justify regulating iOS. It’s apples product used only on apples products.

On the flip side, Google’s product appears on products made by ALL other smartphone manufacturers. If google was pro-competition, android wouldn’t have destroyed the competitive smartphone os market.
 
Mrochester is a known iPhone-o-phile but he did at least engage with the discussion by saying that he’d prefer to pay for services rather than have his privacy breached. It’s a reasonable point that doesn’t need to be shouted down with “lolz do u kno how much it costs 2 runs a dater senter?” response repeated several times.


I’m pro competition, therefore I want to see a healthy smartphone operating system market.

Google and android prevent that from happening.

We need regulation to allow for a competitive market because the market has so far failed to deliver competitiveness to us consumers.
 
I’m pro competition

There’s no need to regulate iOS it isn’t available for other devices outside of Apple.

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There’s no irony here. Apple has absolutely loads of competition in the smartphone market (Samsung, Huawei, Sony, OnePlus, Motorola etc etc).

In comparison, in the smartphone operating system market, google has essentially no competition because there are no other competitors for device manufacturers to install on their devices (technically there are, but they don’t install them because google has a crushingly oppressive hold on the market already and subsidises that hold from advertising revenue).
 
If iOS was open, there would be an alternative. But its not and that's OK because... Apple?

So the answer is close Android just like iOS and then you'll be happy? Yes, lets force every other manufacturer to spend hundreds of millions to develope their own operating systems instead of using android. It makes no sense.

Claiming you are pro competition then singing the virtues of a closed OS is a textbook example of irony.
 
If iOS was open, there would be an alternative. But its not and that's OK because... Apple?

So the answer is close Android just like iOS and then you'll be happy? Yes, lets force every other manufacturer to spend hundreds of millions to develope their own operating systems instead of using android. It makes no sense.

Claiming you are pro competition then singing the virtues of a closed OS is a textbook example of irony.

You are conflating two different markets. iOS does not compete in the smartphone operating system market. The iPhone competes in the smartphone market.

Lots of different operating systems from different manufacturers would be brilliant. Why should I care how much it costs them? I just want a more competitive market to benefit me. Why would you want less competition in the market?
 
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You have a woefully inadequate understanding of the mobile operating system market and AOSP and capitalism and history and allsorts.

This is a demand driven situation, plenty of other mobile operating systems existed, then ironically largely because of iOS several died out because they lost all their market share, the manufacturers left standing then moved to AOSP because it was the only place they could survive.

That wasn't anything to do with google themselves other than just like with search they made a product that was better and customers voted with their feet.

In addition, there are lots of options for AOSP that doesn't use google services at all.. like in China. No play store, totally separate app stores, nothing preloaded etc.

It's survival of the fittest which means your "why wouldn't I want a situation where xyz" is nonsensical.. why wouldn't I want dinosaurs to still exist? Well I can want whatever I want but they already died out. Like blackberry, and symbian and every other mobile OS.

Nobody made anyone buy android, nobody made an OEMs use android. Nobody forced Microsoft, the biggest OS vendor on the planet probably, using the formerly largest hardware mfr to abjectly fail to generate consumer demand with a product that was fine.
 
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