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I've been reading up on this, yes it's sneaky but who really ******* cares? I mean we all use Facebook, Instagram, Google services, Microsoft etc etc. They all farm your data and in a much worse way than a few crash reports do.
 
yes it's sneaky but who really ******* cares?

Many people, myself included. The issue I have isn't that they've how got a phone home feature it's that they've not formally announced it, have enabled it silenty and at present there isn't a way to opt out from within the Unifi controller.

If they had announced the feature, explained what it was far, what data was being collected and what they were doing with it then I probably wouldn't have too much of an issue with it but it should be MY choice to enable it. Not theirs.
 
I've been reading up on this, yes it's sneaky but who really ******* cares? I mean we all use Facebook, Instagram, Google services, Microsoft etc etc. They all farm your data and in a much worse way than a few crash reports do.

I guess playing devil's advocate, using something like Facebook only gives them info that my browser has access to (well, in theory...), when it's your core network devices they have a whole lot more visibility into things.

For a home user it's not exactly going to have an impact on anything really, but still not nice though to not be told or have control over it.

How much telemetry is Windows 10 dishing out even with all the settings and cludges out there set to minimum, and I'd imagine iOS likes to send back plenty of info on how things are running, crash dumps etc.
 
@WJA96 or anyone else that may know

With the UDM Pro can the two SFP+ ports be used for switching or is one dedicated just to WAN?

Thanks!
 
Yeah that's what I had seen, was just curious if there was a way around that or a setting etc.

Would be nice as I could avoid buying a dedicated 10G switch for my current PC and NAS that support it.
 
Yeah that's what I had seen, was just curious if there was a way around that or a setting etc.

Would be nice as I could avoid buying a dedicated 10G switch for my current PC and NAS that support it.
You can get a Mikrotik switch that isn't too expensive, I've got two to complete my 10 Gbit network.
 
@WJA96 or anyone else that may know

With the UDM Pro can the two SFP+ ports be used for switching or is one dedicated just to WAN?

Thanks!

I think there may be some confusion. There are two SFP+ ports, one is coupled to the 1Mb RJ45 WAN port so whichever one you use, the other is disabled and that is the primary WAN port. The other is coupled to the 8-port switch so it is a 10Gb uplink that you can connect to a US-48 or US-48-500W/750W or a USW-Pro-24-PoE or USW-Pro-48-PoE or a US-6-XG-PoE or any switch with an SFP+ port.

The 2 SFP+ ports are on different chips in the device.

But! Any port is mappable, so you could make any of the switched ports an additional WAN port. My reading of the spec sheet is it's a weird product aimed at extreme prosumers who want a very fast rackmount router and they want to run their cameras off the system as well.

There are lots of rumours about a true USG-4P (Pro) replacement that doesn't have a built-in controller and doesn't have a HDD slot or a built-in switch.

And fundamentally, if you're on a UK ISP, there is almost no reason to upgrade from a USG or USG-Pro because those devices can run IPS/IDS at UK ISP line speeds. The controller feature set is identical. Because it's the same controller.
 
No need to delete it I would say, the like to El Reg is a useful read.

I'll leave it in mate, it would break the flow of the posts after it..

No harm done by your post :)

I hadn't seen the news on it until I saw your post on the topic.

cool , thanks. :)

I've been reading up on this, yes it's sneaky but who really ******* cares?.

I can imagine all the News about Huawei networking will make people suspicious.
 
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A new beta firmware 4.0.69 has been released and has the following listed as an improvement:
  • [HW] Default disable crash and critical event reporting.*
*Will be able to opt-in in a future controller release.
 
If you're on a UK ISP, there is almost no reason to upgrade from a USG or USG-Pro because those devices can run IPS/IDS at UK ISP line speeds. The controller feature set is identical. Because it's the same controller.

Not for much longer. Gigabit connections are gonna be a lot more common in the next 6 months.
 
Not for much longer. Gigabit connections are gonna be a lot more common in the next 6 months.

Availability might improve but the prices being quoted won't bring in huge numbers of users. Most folks I know are still on a 38Mbps download contract because to go to a 76Mbps contract doesn't really get you any extra functionality in terms of streaming and the prices are quite a bit higher. To ask someone paying £30/month for 38Mbps to go to £65 plus for 1Gbps simply won't get you much uptake. It will come down as competition goes up, but it's not going to be commonplace in the UK for a while yet.
 
Availability might improve but the prices being quoted won't bring in huge numbers of users. Most folks I know are still on a 38Mbps download contract because to go to a 76Mbps contract doesn't really get you any extra functionality in terms of streaming and the prices are quite a bit higher. To ask someone paying £30/month for 38Mbps to go to £65 plus for 1Gbps simply won't get you much uptake. It will come down as competition goes up, but it's not going to be commonplace in the UK for a while yet.
Those same people likely won't be using Ubiquiti gear though, so they're irrelevant. There'll be a large crossover between people with their own home networking setups and people looking to move to 1Gb as soon as it's available.
 
I think there may be some confusion. There are two SFP+ ports, one is coupled to the 1Mb RJ45 WAN port so whichever one you use, the other is disabled and that is the primary WAN port. The other is coupled to the 8-port switch so it is a 10Gb uplink that you can connect to a US-48 or US-48-500W/750W or a USW-Pro-24-PoE or USW-Pro-48-PoE or a US-6-XG-PoE or any switch with an SFP+ port.

The 2 SFP+ ports are on different chips in the device.

But! Any port is mappable, so you could make any of the switched ports an additional WAN port. My reading of the spec sheet is it's a weird product aimed at extreme prosumers who want a very fast rackmount router and they want to run their cameras off the system as well.

There are lots of rumours about a true USG-4P (Pro) replacement that doesn't have a built-in controller and doesn't have a HDD slot or a built-in switch.

And fundamentally, if you're on a UK ISP, there is almost no reason to upgrade from a USG or USG-Pro because those devices can run IPS/IDS at UK ISP line speeds. The controller feature set is identical. Because it's the same controller.

Thank you for the detail.

From Ubiquiti I currently have a US-16-150W so no SFP+, 2 UAP-IW-HD and 1 UAP-nanoHD.

On the 19th I'm due to get the Virgin 500 package and wanted to get a USG or wait for a UDM Pro.

I have my PC workstation and server/NAS box connected with a SFP+ DAC cable which works great but was wondering like you say about mapping the SFP+ ports on the UDM Pro to both be switched without disabling the 1Gb WAN port.

Maybe I'll try a USG 3 port for the time being to see how I get on while waiting for the new releases. Don't think I want to use the VM router in anything but modem mode.
 
The Virgin Media Super Hub isn't a bad router from what I remember (it's a while since I've used one) but it was let down by the cruddy wifi. Why not try the SH as the router and use your existing Ubnt AP's then see how you get on?
 
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