Tell me about the F10 M5

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Hi guys,

Looking into replacing the S6 with either an F10 M5 or RS6 (V10 one).

Question 1, is £20 to £22k sufficient for an F10 M5 or is that scraping the barrel a bit?

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Mal
 
Total bottom of barrel. Think you need to up the budget for both of the cars you're after.
 
I have no idea if it’s the same but I had a m6. It’s lack of traction made it a pain to drive and not really a enjoyable car.
 
Fair enough. Spec the wife a bottom of the market high mileage people carrier so I can buy a cheap M5 does seem like a fairly odd ask it has to be said :D
 
The F10 M5 won't be bottom of the barrel either, you could pick up a 60k mile 63/64 plate for this kind of money which was LCI and had all the bells and whistles.

Keep an eye out for high oil usage. Whilst it's not an actual issue, it's annoying to have to keep topping up. Most service plans would have expired by now but if you could negotiate one, or extend one, do it. In 3 years off ownership, I paid £18 for servicing.

If the car has Pirrelli tyres, swap them out for MPSS which was the tyre the M5 originally came with. During LCI there was a shortage of MPSS so BMW opted to use Pirrelli. The difference is night and day.
 
Scania said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...-4-4-dct-with-fbmwsh-and-bmw-warranty/9994865
2013, 49k miles, Full BMW S/H and under BMW warranty for £22k....

pretty good barrel I’d say! :D
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They can be had for very good money. My father recently traded his in for 29k - 2015 Competition pack. People just not looking at M5s second hand I guess.

I would agree with the comment on MPSS.

I'd double check for remap on these - it's very easy to do and very appealing due to the high gains from twin turbo. Every garage that enquired about his M5 asked whether it had been remapped.
 
Gibbo said:
A lot of car for the money, I suspect these are a fair bit more reliable than the V10 E60 and probably much better on fuel, in my short time of driving an E60 M5 the average was 11mpg. :D
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In my 3 years of ownership, the long term average (OBC) was 22mpg. Obviously, the only sensible colour is Sakhir Orange :D
 
Django x2 said:
In my 3 years of ownership, the long term average (OBC) was 22mpg. Obviously, the only sensible colour is Sakhir Orange :D
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Yeah what you lose in sound with a twin turbo, you gain in fuel economy for sure. :)
The V10 E60's are going cheap these days, most are dogs and people just cannot afford to run them, big service bills, turn fuel into noise.
 
MrRockliffe said:
They can be had for very good money. My father recently traded his in for 29k - 2015 Competition pack. People just not looking at M5s second hand I guess.

I would agree with the comment on MPSS.

I'd double check for remap on these - it's very easy to do and very appealing due to the high gains from twin turbo. Every garage that enquired about his M5 asked whether it had been remapped.
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To a degree, M5’s have always (with perhaps the exception of the e28 due to its such limited production numbers) tanked when still relatively new but creep back up again, I recall decent - ie not perfect but far from wrecks - e34’s around £3k -£5k, e39’s around more or less the same and look at them now!

The e60 has its image of being fragile but hugely expensive to maintain with many “when not if” issues which are hitting them hard and won’t really go away either but still in a few years I think they’ll eventually climb due to so few being left on the road and it despite its flaws still being imo an epic M car.

I suspect the f10 over time is going to be seen similarly in terms of reliability, it’s got a huge amount of tech plus multiple turbos, I can’t see age and high miles making the f10 that appealing either.

And as said the f10 is begging to be remapped and driven/abused accordingly and on top of that it’s so easy to get mileage blockers for them it’s going to be very hard to verify it’s not had a checkered history.

That said, for an all round super salon with warranty around the price the OP is thinking the f10 is the performance bargain at the moment, and given the piggy bank, I’d love one but that bargain may seem premature once the warranty runs out...
 
Colleague had one of these, 14 plate. Just got rid of it due to escalating repair bills, and terrible efficiency even on long(ish) runs. He'd sunk 9k is repairs, and was averaging 17MPG, over 15k miles, so £5k in fuel alone, he lost god know how much in depreciation.

Do yourself a favour, buy your wife a nice car to ferry the kids and the dog around in and buy yourself something sensible? Or you could just start burning £50 notes while playing car noises on a stereo. ;)
 
I had a f10 m5 comp pack, ceramic brakes, air cooled seats, heated wheel, 360 cam, had a huge spec.

It was lovely, I love them they are very nice places to be. However they are ditch finders far to much power for the rear wheels.

I used to have a lovely section of corners on the way to my old yard, a few sweeping, a couple of sharper ones and the one time i really hooked the car up it felt fantastic. 90% of the other times traction was a issue.

The day I sold it i took a mate to come and collect (px'd the m5) to the new car, he had never been in the M5. He kept asking why on earth im selling it until the back stepped out so far around a small bend on throttle, he messed himself and we both agreed it was lovely but far to powerful. I keep looking at them as they have dropped in price but the residual looks to be bottoming out.

The look of the thing i think you appreciate the older you get. Its not stand out like the m3/4's and rs4's etc but it is very nicely done.

It handled a lot better than both my v10 RS6 and my v8 2014 rs6.
 
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Journey said:
Colleague had one of these, 14 plate. Just got rid of it due to escalating repair bills, and terrible efficiency even on long(ish) runs. He'd sunk 9k is repairs, and was averaging 17MPG, over 15k miles, so £5k in fuel alone, he lost god know how much in depreciation.

Do yourself a favour, buy your wife a nice car to ferry the kids and the dog around in and buy yourself something sensible? Or you could just start burning £50 notes while playing car noises on a stereo. ;)
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His mistake for not getting a service pack. He must have had a complete lemon to require £9k of bills
 
Django x2 said:
His mistake for not getting a service pack. He must have had a complete lemon to require £9k of bills
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Some maintenance there too, should have been more clear. Also I think you'd say the car was a lemon, rather than the person, as he had a previous M5 for longer and didn't have half the issues.
 
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