Yes, but ultimately whats the point in that?
If they dont send troops in, Iran will just re group and re build and be 10 million times more angry at the USA and the west and thus breeding generations of terrorists for decades to come.
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Yes, but ultimately whats the point in that?
If they dont send troops in, Iran will just re group and re build and be 10 million times more angry at the USA and the west and thus breeding generations of terrorists for decades to come.
all that tech is only useful while you fighting regular forces, and i think everyone agrees that the regular forces would soon be over powered. but at some point you will have to put boots on the ground, and then you be fighting irregular forces, and all the tech in the world won't help ID someone who look's and dress like the 100 people around him, until he pulls out his gun/IED and kills you
So another Iraq.
Yes, but many times worse.
I totally agree, election coming up. What about the Korean war, that was legit.
Korea has nukes. If Iran had nukes also nothing would have happened. That's the problem.
Korea had nukes in the 1950's?
They do now, hence why they are pretty safe from America. Same as Russia, they can quite blatantly murder people in the streets of another country and all they get are harsh words.
Sorry my bad, thought meant for potential future Korean war. Ofc not but 2million Chinese were more than enough to almost send to the sea the "allied" forces.
However NK has nukes now, so USA would never attack them. Which was my point.
Thats badly wrong!
The vast majority of UK deaths were from Shia militias backed and armed by the Iranians with the US also suffered deaths in Baghdad from Shia militias during the Mahdi uprisings of 2007. Then again, as I was actually there and you clearly weren't, I can understand you making such a colossal mistake!
Maybe shouldn't have invaded then and those soldiers would still be alive.
I won't disagree with you there! Afghanistan could at least be justified by 9/11, Iraq on the other hand made no sense and actively hurt the conflict in Afghanistan (which had gone well from 2001-2003) by removing troops that were needed there, allowing the TB/PTB to regroup and come back stronger in 2004 onwards.
Well it's all a bit too late now unfortunately, I think the West needs to make a choice, finish the intervention or leave completely. The longer term, somewhat more insidious current policy clearly isn't working (I'm sure it's very profitable), especially since they can now all look at North Korea to see what Nuclear deterrence does to even the bigliest 'bullies'.
The Saudi's clearly want it and Turkey is likely to follow that, it's simply unsustainable to stay without a definitive policy of what the West is doing there, though i imagine it'll be swiftly abandoned after the oil becomes irrelevant. But then that is dependent on geopolitics with Russia and China, as there's still a strategic position there, but how does one justify it to the democracies of the West increasingly unwilling to be there at all?
There's also the clear increasing gap between Europe and the US, I won't be surprised if NATO collapses.
The Saudi's clearly want it and Turkey is likely to follow that, it's simply unsustainable to stay without a definitive policy of what the West is doing there, though i imagine it'll be swiftly abandoned after the oil becomes irrelevant. But then that is dependent on geopolitics with Russia and China, as there's still a strategic position there, but how does one justify it to the democracies of the West increasingly unwilling to be there at all?
There's also the clear increasing gap between Europe and the US, I won't be surprised if NATO collapses.
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TDS (Trump derangement syndrome) is the reason, Obama drops 26000 bombs and no one cares, Trump drops one and its WW3.
At this point Trump could cure cancer and people would find a reason to be against it.
Its quite hilarious.
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I was going to respond to this post but I see you have covered it, glad someone else has looked into the subject as well, its amazing how many are completely oblivious to world events.
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Why do you think that is?
One bomb?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/09/donald-trump-is-dropping-bombs-at-unprecedented-levels/
No one cares anymore because it's seemingly just what America does, but the fact remains that Trump stood on a platform to 'end these endless wars' and has characteristically done the opposite. What people really care about (I'd hope without partisanship) is whether or not Trump and his sycophantic administration are up to the job, do they have a legitimate and consistent plan to deal with the fallout of their actions? or is it just senselessness and hope it works?
Inventing hypothetical situations isn't particularly useful either, we deal with the past and the present.
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I know you think this sounds clever in your head. But in reality, it doesnt.
and equally I find it hilarious that Trump worshipers like you blindly support every thing Trump does. If Trump went out right now and shot Biden you would find some way to support him and justify it.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50998065
So there we go. Trump helps Russia continue their geopolitical game.
So there we go. Trump helps Russia continue their geopolitical game.