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Not about Clinton or the Dems, its about having some morals. Besides, Trump has eclipsed Bill in the immoral department.

Quite bizarre for a country which claims to be "God fearing" to not care about any Christian values.

LOL!

I love the way you dismiss Clinton's immorality with casual wave of the hand. This is why the Dems will get their butts handed to them come November.
 
So did the American public. After he was impeached his approval rating was 73%. He was popular with loads of Rep.

Ok, so why is this any different?

I'll tell you why, it's because you don't like him. Given that you see his issues as being much bigger and worthy of being removed from office. I felt the same way about Clinton. :shrug:
 
Nothing got dismissed. Trump is just 1000% worse in all ways.

Nobody actually "likes" Trump.
Actually I'd say Bill Clinton's transgressions would be treated a lot more seriously in 2020 than they were in the 90s, so BlueMerle has a point. A white male of extreme power (the most powerful in the World?) taking advantage of female subordinates and effectively ruining their lives - a real no-no these days, and rightly so.
 
Bill's a straight up pimp, getting a secretary to blow him in the White House, then Hillary stays with him lmao. Nothing to see here though folks, let's focus on the orange man.
 
So typical. Sounds just like Hillary during the '16 campaign. How'd that work out for her?

Who cares?

As a person, who actually likes Trump? You might lap up his lies. You might glory in his cheating on his wife with old porn stars then paying them off. You may think he tells it like it is by denigrating women. You might love his abuse and threatening people on twitter. You may think playing golf for half his presidency is great. You might gloss over his profiteering from being Pres. You may think pressuring foreign powers for dirt on political rivals is fine. You might love him being a bit racist. You might think him being thick as **** is cute.

Actually like him? please, he is a toad with no redeeming features.
 
Who cares?

As a person, who actually likes Trump? You might lap up his lies. You might glory in his cheating on his wife with old porn stars then paying them off. You may think he tells it like it is by denigrating women. You might love his abuse and threatening people on twitter. You may think playing golf for half his presidency is great. You might gloss over his profiteering from being Pres. You may think pressuring foreign powers for dirt on political rivals is fine. You might love him being a bit racist. You might think him being thick as **** is cute.

Actually like him? please, he is a toad with no redeeming features.

First, I can say the exact same thing about Bill. Especially the last sentence.

Second, I care. I have to live here.

Third, since you insist on painting everyone that votes for Trump with the same brush let me assure you that it's a bit more nuanced than you seem to realize.
 
First, I can say the exact same thing about Bill. Especially the last sentence.

Second, I care. I have to live here.

Third, since you insist on painting everyone that votes for Trump with the same brush let me assure you that it's a bit more nuanced than you seem to realize.

It's really not, be Republican, that's fine, just get that immoral POS out the equation.
 
Perhaps, but given that the Dems still love Clinton and always supported him and his immoral ways I'll just stick with my guy.

I don't think you'll find anyone saying what he did was good or moral?
Good to know you value such qualities in a president then? You must be apoplectic about Trumps numerous transgressions against his wife(s)?
 
It's really not, be Republican, that's fine, just get that immoral POS out the equation.

I'm reminded of my very first post on this forum. It was in '16 in a thread about the US election. The primaries were over and the candidates ( Clinton and Trump) had been selected. It went something like this.... "When the primaries got started I told a friend that I'd vote for Satan before I'd vote for Trump, damned if those aren't my choices now."

The Senate is not going to convict Trump, but we knew that from the begining. There will not be any serious opposition to Trump from the Republican side. The Dems are literally tearing themselves apart and seem unlikely to put forth a serious candidate.

It is more nuanced. And I'll tell y'all what someone told me when Clinton didn't get convicted. Deal with it, you have no other choice.
 
First, I can say the exact same thing about Bill. Especially the last sentence.

Second, I care. I have to live here.

Third, since you insist on painting everyone that votes for Trump with the same brush let me assure you that it's a bit more nuanced than you seem to realize.

No, you cant.
 
Actually I'd say Bill Clinton's transgressions would be treated a lot more seriously in 2020 than they were in the 90s, so BlueMerle has a point. A white male of extreme power (the most powerful in the World?) taking advantage of female subordinates and effectively ruining their lives - a real no-no these days, and rightly so.
Totally agree with this the me too movement would have eaten old bill alive today, I still think Trumps transgressions are worse in that he pretty much matches Bills personal transgressions (paying off porn stars) and then adds the abuse of power by threatening other counties for his own personal benefit profiteering from being the president etc but that doesn't make either of them morally upstanding fine examples that our children should follow. For me if you thought Bill should have been impeached then you have to think Trump should be as well.
 
I don't think you'll find anyone saying what he did was good or moral?
Good to know you value such qualities in a president then? You must be apoplectic about Trumps numerous transgressions against his wife(s)?

Ahh... so now my values are on trial, but once again those who supported Clinton are give a pass. Is that right?
 
For me if you thought Bill should have been impeached then you have to think Trump should be as well.

That's fair. And to be honest, I'd prefer that Trump wasn't in office. If there's a reasonable Dem that gets the nomination I'll give serious thought to voting for them. Otherwise it's Trump.
 
Hate leads to the DARK SIDE.....

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