Donald Trump

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 12:07

Greebo said:
Oh what crime has the orange idiot committed this time?

Same as last time. NONE.

They'll make up some crime.

Basically they will be looking at forcing testimony from those persons that the house should have called/subpoenaed in round 1 but they seem to be prepared to take the time to get it right.

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 12:10

Efour said:
Nothing, but how else can they beat him? If at first you don't succeed, try, try and try again.

Basically this....

The rumour mill has Bloomberg coming in on super Tuesday and destroying the current democratic candidates and Hillary then using this to pick up the democratic ticket and burying Bernie again.

Werewolf · 10 Feb 2020 at 12:20

plasmahal said:
Basically this....

The rumour mill has Bloomberg coming in on super Tuesday and destroying the current democratic candidates and Hillary then using this to pick up the democratic ticket and burying Bernie again.

Is that the Q mill, the GOP mill, or the Alex Jones special mill?

doodah · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:08

Just to recap some of the CTs on there - and these are just plasmahal's, hominid's are even more fantabulous.

The Democrats cannot beat Trump in a democratic voting process (true to an extent but *cough cough* 2018, Texas and other special elections)
The Democrats wanted to prolong the impeachment process to keep Bernie busy
Some of us in the SC Trump thread got people in there banned (ie we twisted the mod's arms)
Adam Schiff claimed the US will be invaded by Russia if Trump remains president
Obama ordered spying on the Trump campaign
Soundtrack was doctored on one of the Lev Parnas videos detailing his relationship with Trump
Obama administration withheld a lot of money to ensure Biden was not investigated over their involvement with a corrupt Ukrainian Gas company

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:26

Werewolf said:
Is that the Q mill, the GOP mill, or the Alex Jones special mill?

????

Q mill?

None of the above.

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:36

doodah said:
The Democrats cannot beat Trump in a democratic voting process (true to an extent but *cough cough* 2018, Texas and other special elections)

So not a CT then.... :rolleyes:

doodah said:
The Democrats wanted to prolong the impeachment process to keep Bernie busy

It's well known that the DNC and people in power don't really want Bernie for President. He was openly screwed over in 2016 (Donna Brazile has confirmed that). They recently tried to brand him sexist at one of the DNC debates. If Bernie becomes the nominee then i'll state it's a CT, until then it's not a CT but an opinion based on facts and observations.

doodah said:
Some of us in the SC Trump thread got people in there banned (ie we twisted the mod's arms)

Certainly looks that way. Can't prove it though.

doodah said:
Adam Schiff claimed the US will be invaded by Russia if Trump remains president

He's on record as saying that if the US does not fight Russia in the Ukraine, then Russia will bring the fight to the US. Maybe one of his famous 'parodies' of the truth. Not a CT.

doodah said:
Soundtrack was doctored on one of the Lev Parnas videos detailing his relationship with Trump

Don't know who claimed that but certainly possible given the technology today. Possible CT.

doodah said:
Obama administration withheld a lot of money to ensure Biden was not investigated over their involvement with a corrupt Ukrainian Gas company

Video proof of Biden saying this is freely available to the open minded. Not a CT and this is all under investigation at the moment.

Jono8 · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:42

plasmahal said:
Video proof of Biden saying this is freely available to the open minded. Not a CT and this is all under investigation at the moment.

There is not video proof that Biden withheld the money to ensure Burisma were not investigated.

There is video proof of him saying he was withholding it until the corrupt prosecutor was fired (which was the bipartisan policy of the USA and its allies..).

However, they are not the same thing, in anyway shape or form.

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:50

Jono8 said:
There is not video proof that Biden withheld the money to ensure Burisma were not investigated.

There is video proof of him saying he was withholding it until the corrupt prosecutor was fired (which was the bipartisan policy of the USA and its allies..).

However, they are not the same thing, in anyway shape or form.

What was the alleged corrupt prosecutor investigating? That's right, Burisma.

so there is a direct connection and totally related and all slowly coming out.

Stay blinkered or keep your head in the sand but it's all part of the corruption in DC (Trump included).

chroniclard · 10 Feb 2020 at 13:53

Jono8 said:
There is not video proof that Biden withheld the money to ensure Burisma were not investigated.

There is video proof of him saying he was withholding it until the corrupt prosecutor was fired (which was the bipartisan policy of the USA and its allies..).

However, they are not the same thing, in anyway shape or form.

Your mistake here is letting facts get in the way of a good CT.

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 14:11

chroniclard said:
Your mistake here is letting facts get in the way of a good CT.

Your mistake it ignoring other peoples opinions as they don't fit your worldview and calling them ALL CT's.

Jono8 · 10 Feb 2020 at 14:12

plasmahal said:
so there is a direct connection and totally related and all slowly coming out.

This is just you putting 2 and 2 together to make 5.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...itical-controversy-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1W82HK

Shokin had investigated Burisma but the probe was dormant at the time Biden pushed for the prosecutor’s termination.

Also:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...inst-burisma-cover-period-before-biden-joined

Ukraine agency says allegations against Burisma cover period before Biden joined

There is no evidence that Biden fired him over Burisma, no evidence that Hunter was being investigated, and no evidence that the probe into Burisma would have been shut down if Shokin left. If anything , seen as Shokin was fired for not doing enough about corruption it could have been that Burisma would have been at more risk of investigation after he was fired.

Jono8 · 10 Feb 2020 at 14:13

plasmahal said:
Your mistake it ignoring other peoples opinions as they don't fit your worldview and calling them ALL CT's.

But it is a CT, and not even a good or plausible one at this stage.

You have put two things together in your head, to create a scenario, for which there is no proof.

Let me just break it down:

Biden carrying out the foreign policy of the USA and its Allies by firing Shokin =/= him firing Shokin because there was a dormant investigation into a company his son works for based on a time period before his son was even there.

You need something in the middle there to tie them together which you do not have.

If it was something Biden came up with himself and wasn't the bipartisan position of the USA and its allies, then i may give your theory more credence. However, that isn't the case.

doodah · 10 Feb 2020 at 15:34

plasmahal said:
Don't know who claimed that but certainly possible given the technology today. Possible CT.

plasmahal said:
If it was a video showing peoples faces etc, it would be credible. Do you believe it's impossible to doctor the soundtrack? I'm sure many in film production would disagree.

plasmahal · 10 Feb 2020 at 15:39

I suggested it could be possible not claimed it had been done, so who did?

Skunkworks · 10 Feb 2020 at 15:40

Efour said:
Nothing, but how else can they beat him? If at first you don't succeed, try, try and try again.

I hear he once wore odd socks. #Impeach45

deuse · 10 Feb 2020 at 15:50

Werewolf said:
Is that the Q mill, the GOP mill, or the Alex Jones special mill?

Bloomberg has done nothing so far and has won nothing.
But all that will change on Super Tuesday. Bloomberg will go all out then.

tang0 · 10 Feb 2020 at 15:57

https://streamable.com/z12rt

Love all the ignoramuses in here. You were all over the Russia hoax like a rash, believed the pee pee dossier as legit intel, was convinced Trump was conspiring with Putin.

Now they've unearthed a massive cache of documents proving money laundering trails from US politicians, money funneled to Privatbank from the US treasury which is owned by a very corrupt guy that was banned from entering the US on murder charges, and then was given a special visa to enter, witness testimony from the prosecutor that got fired...

BuT It'S AlL a CoNspIracY TheOry

Greebo · 10 Feb 2020 at 16:05

tang0 said:
https://streamable.com/z12rt

Love all the ignoramuses in here. You were all over the Russia hoax like a rash, believed the pee pee dossier as legit intel, was convinced Trump was conspiring with Putin.

Now they've unearthed a massive cache of documents proving money laundering trails from US politicians, money funneled to Privatbank from the US treasury which is owned by a very corrupt guy that was banned from entering the US on murder charges, and then was given a special visa to enter, witness testimony from the prosecutor that got fired...

BuT It'S AlL a CoNspIracY TheOry

Link to all these documents proof please?

EDIT: I seached and found it on "The Blaze". Its an opinion piece where every claim that you have taken as the truth is prefixed with the word "possibly".

That is the sloppiest reporting ever and they shouldnt even try to call themselves a news media outlet.

Anybody can say anything by using the word "possibly" . I could say I saw Tang0 with some white powder which could possibly be cocaine. Why isnt anybody investigating that and arresting him!!!!! Scream!!!!!

Squark · 10 Feb 2020 at 16:06

Nice conclusion you've jumped to there tango.

But at least you're posting something which tries to support your position.

tang0 · 10 Feb 2020 at 16:10

https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement