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He's the crooked GP who half the world wanted him kicked out of his post and you are taking his testimony to be gospel????
 
Pffft plasmahal is chicken feed compared to hominid's CTs, brace yourselves....
  • Overwhelming evidence the Democrats are up to their neck in corruption in Ukraine and other countries
  • The Russian hoax started in Ukraine along with Manafort's black ledger, and is why the impeachment proceedings started ("they can't handle the truth")
  • The Democrats spied on the Trump campaign (again)
  • The Mueller investigation got started to cover up the Democrat's FISA abuse (someone else made this claim but hominid got right on board - oh and he thinks Mueller is going senile)
  • They entrapped Flynn & Stone into perjury, dug up the past of Manafort & Cohen and tried to get them to flip on Trump (again not hominid's but also got on board with this)
  • Vindman's twin may have leaked Bolton's manuscript to the Democrats (he also strangely emphasises that he's a twin rather than a brother in another post)
  • Trump got too close to the truth in Ukraine, they had to get him off of the scent so they impeached him otherwise it would be a MASSIVE scandal - worse than Iran Contra! (by the way - he promised this was true so it must be)
  • Subscribes to Operation Mockingbird which is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early 1950s and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes
  • Admits his thoughts on 9/11 are different to the mainstream - I wonder what that could be...
  • Posts a Glenn Beck video as proof of the (Democrats) Ukraine scandal
  • A presumption but appears to subscribe to the CT that Seth Rich* murder is related to a Democrat cover up
  • The whistleblower must be in on it because they speak Russian/Ukrainian
  • Democrats are knee deep in their financial ties with Ukrainian oligarchs (another member, agreed with it)
  • Bare with me on this one because it melts your brain just writing it - the Democratic party are the same people that are responsible for the massacre in Ukraine that triggered the coup
  • However he appeared to edit his post and previously thought this scheme had bipartisan support - Biden/Kerry/Hillary/Obama/Schiff/Bolton/Brennen/Pelosi/Romney
  • And it's why you now see the likes of Biden, Kerry and Pelosi have children that 'work', by that he means paid directorships, in Ukrainian energy companies
Just to recap - all of the above are just from the first 2 pages of his posts in this thread :p:p:p:p.
  • Labelled this whole impeachment a coup
  • Seems to think Obama didn't have 8 years of attacks from the (right wing) press (birtherism, tanned suits, was his wife a man, Dijon mustard etc)
  • Another "prepare yourselves for this" - he supported Sanders in 2016 - that's a peach!
  • Does not like a lot of Trump's policies and all it boils down to? The way he trolls people/better than Hillary
  • I think he actually thinks Pelosi was the one who froze federal wages in the battle for funding for the wall
  • The reason why he implicated Romney earlier on and why Romney voted to impeach on one of the articles - because he's embroiled in the Ukraine scandal
  • This next one is one of the most entertaining posts on this forum....
hominid said:
One is a war mongering psychopath and the other is a cool, if not slightly insensitive, funny, magnetic person that has American interests first.
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We're only up to 5 pages so far.

These are just from this thread, there were previously more....
  • No proof the Russians hacked the DNC
  • *Yup implied Seth Rich murder was shady/possibly related to the Democrats
  • Thought Hillary was hiding some serious illness, possible Parkison's
  • Accuses the Democrats of being extreme left-wing idiologs who want to take all guns off Americans
What materials must you read to get all of this stuff. I have never seen anything like it on this forum.
 
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doodah said:
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95% of that happened

Talking about Seth Rich..

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DNC transferred 100k to Crowdstrike the day after Seth was killed

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Crowdstrike injected “Russian fingerprints” to create the appearance of a Russian hack, why do you think they never allowed FBI to go near the server, and the FBI were fine with this?

Craig Murray claimed he knows Seth was the source

Assange strongly hinted Seth was the source, a guy that hasn't had to retract a single thing

MASSIVE pushback when news outlets started reporting on it, certain people have not mentioned a single thing about it since it came out
 
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chroniclard said:
You are making out like Trump is not an anomaly, he is, he literally lies constantly all day long. In person and on twitter, its constant.
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No, I only said all Presidents lie, I've not said anything about one President lying, or not lying, more than another President. I have only said that ALL Presidents are liars, which is a simple fact which you apparent don't like.

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So quite frankly your attitude is idiotic.
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Ah personal insults start I see.

Look, I posted a simple undeniable fact ("all Presidents lie"), you don't like that fact so you make up a lie to attack my statement ("your assertion that all presidents lie is also patently false"), your lie - and it is a lie - is pointed out to you ("you've just said that there has been at least one President that has never EVER lied, not even one tiny little white lie") so you understandably reacted negatively to having your lie revealed and ended up calling my attitude idiotic.

I realise that you may or may not try to prove me to be a liar now, maybe in an attempt to gain a perceived feeling of "yes, that told him" but TBH its pointless as getting into some kind of back and forth exercise in a futile attempt to "get one up on each other" just doesn't sound like a fun way to spend my time. I've said my piece, you've said yours, everyone can see both versions and make their own mind up about the both of us, whether thats good or bad about either of us I just don't really care that much TBH.

In the end it's only 5 more years of Trump at the very worst and then he'll be gone forever. Are you really sure you want to keep up this level of constant dislike bordering on hatred for that long? For myself I can't imagine that being a mentally healthy thing to do, but you know your own mental strength better than I so if you believe you'll be OK after that then have fun I suppose.
 
tang0 said:
95% of that happened

Talking about Seth Rich..



DNC transferred 100k to Crowdstrike the day after Seth was killed



Crowdstrike injected “Russian fingerprints” to create the appearance of a Russian hack, why do you think they never allowed FBI to go near the server, and the FBI were fine with this?

Craig Murray claimed he knows Seth was the source

Assange strongly hinted Seth was the source, a guy that hasn't had to retract a single thing

MASSIVE pushback when news outlets started reporting on it, certain people have not mentioned a single thing about it since it came out
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Erm wasn't it an instance of a virtual machine running on a cloud based system?
In which case the "server" was an image of the instance...

I suspect the FBI were fine with not getting "the server" in that case because they understood the difference between a virtual server and the physical hardware it (and many others) run on.

Even if it was on a dedicated server with nothing else running, the FBI wouldn't necessarily have needed/wanted access to the full server if they received copies of the server's data from the relevant time - especially as if if you're taking regular back ups, the chances are by the time you've noticed/been made aware of something your server could have had a host of routine changes (bug fixes, security patches etc) that may have overwritten data needed, whilst your backups may have it.

And of course the DNC will have paid money to have Seth killed so obviously, it's not possible that the money was for something legitimate, instead they just paid it in such a way that the money could easily be spotted and tracked as opposed to paying for it out of undeclared funding in person without leaving a paper trail. Although given some of Trumps teaboys/never met them team were stupid enough to send copies of fraudulent documents to each other whilst talking about how to edit them so I guess anything is possible.
 
ianh said:
No, I only said all Presidents lie, I've not said anything about one President lying, or not lying, more than another President. I have only said that ALL Presidents are liars, which is a simple fact which you apparent don't like.



Ah personal insults start I see.

Look, I posted a simple undeniable fact ("all Presidents lie"), you don't like that fact so you make up a lie to attack my statement ("your assertion that all presidents lie is also patently false"), your lie - and it is a lie - is pointed out to you ("you've just said that there has been at least one President that has never EVER lied, not even one tiny little white lie") so you understandably reacted negatively to having your lie revealed and ended up calling my attitude idiotic.

I realise that you may or may not try to prove me to be a liar now, maybe in an attempt to gain a perceived feeling of "yes, that told him" but TBH its pointless as getting into some kind of back and forth exercise in a futile attempt to "get one up on each other" just doesn't sound like a fun way to spend my time. I've said my piece, you've said yours, everyone can see both versions and make their own mind up about the both of us, whether thats good or bad about either of us I just don't really care that much TBH.

In the end it's only 5 more years of Trump at the very worst and then he'll be gone forever. Are you really sure you want to keep up this level of constant dislike bordering on hatred for that long? For myself I can't imagine that being a mentally healthy thing to do, but you know your own mental strength better than I so if you believe you'll be OK after that then have fun I suppose.
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All presidents lie so its fine for a president to lie every single day. Righto.
 
chroniclard said:
You all probably claim the BBC is biased when its highly regarded, worldwide, as relatively unbiased and factual.

There are also differences between reporting the news and opinion pieces.

Why dont we make a list of unbiased factual news sources that are backed up by several reviews from various sources?
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The BCC has some awful journalism, like the worlds fastest violin player who actually isn't playing a violin.
 
ianh said:
No, I only said all Presidents lie, I've not said anything about one President lying, or not lying, more than another President. I have only said that ALL Presidents are liars, which is a simple fact which you apparent don't like.



Ah personal insults start I see.

Look, I posted a simple undeniable fact ("all Presidents lie"), you don't like that fact so you make up a lie to attack my statement ("your assertion that all presidents lie is also patently false"), your lie - and it is a lie - is pointed out to you ("you've just said that there has been at least one President that has never EVER lied, not even one tiny little white lie") so you understandably reacted negatively to having your lie revealed and ended up calling my attitude idiotic.

I realise that you may or may not try to prove me to be a liar now, maybe in an attempt to gain a perceived feeling of "yes, that told him" but TBH its pointless as getting into some kind of back and forth exercise in a futile attempt to "get one up on each other" just doesn't sound like a fun way to spend my time. I've said my piece, you've said yours, everyone can see both versions and make their own mind up about the both of us, whether thats good or bad about either of us I just don't really care that much TBH.

In the end it's only 5 more years of Trump at the very worst and then he'll be gone forever. Are you really sure you want to keep up this level of constant dislike bordering on hatred for that long? For myself I can't imagine that being a mentally healthy thing to do, but you know your own mental strength better than I so if you believe you'll be OK after that then have fun I suppose.
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It can't be mentally healthy to be that bothered about what people think about Trump that you feel the need to debase yourself and give up any morality your parents instilled in you to defend him, TBH.
 
ianh said:
No, I only said all Presidents lie, I've not said anything about one President lying, or not lying, more than another President. I have only said that ALL Presidents are liars, which is a simple fact which you apparent don't like.
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But your statement implies an equivalancy, which is the issue.
Yes, all presidents lie, or give somewhat misleading statements but trump does on a hitherto unseen scale; most presidents didn't make 20+ public statements daily, nevermind 20 obviously false statements.
 
Joe's meds need sorting out...

Student Biden called ‘lying dog-faced pony soldier’ says she was humiliated
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The college student branded a “lying dog-faced pony soldier” by Joe Biden said on Monday that being on the receiving end of a dig from the former vice president was “humiliating.”

Madison Moore, 21, told the Macon Telegraph that for people to wave off the bizarre jibe as a joke was “kind of insulting.”

“It was kind of humiliating to be called a liar on national TV by the former vice president,” Moore told the newspaper.

“Instead of answering that question straightforward, his immediate response was to attempt to invalidate me by exposing my inexperience.”

The Mercer University economics student was at a New Hampshire campaign event on Sunday with a school trip when she asked the Democratic presidential hopeful about the viability of his campaign given his fourth-place standing in the Iowa caucuses.
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