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Security guard (The Brighton cat killer) to face trial over spate of fatal attacks on cats
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We eat meat and all food primary for sustenance to survive, yes greed makes us eat for comfort but we are omnivores no matter who says what and I still do not see how catching and eating a fish or killing a fly on your kitchen surface near food is same as someone killing a persons pet for fun/sadistic purpose's.
This thread had been well derailed from original topic.
Some in this thread think they are pro life but they are more sociopathic if they cannot differentiate between the two topics now going on.
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You better hope that no border collies read that...
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So if he'd hunted the cats for food, or he decided they were pests ******** in his garden and wanted them dead, it would be fair game ? Remember I'm clueless
Using your logic murder is okay providing certain criteria arbitrarily decided by yourself is met
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Keep moving the goalposts, did he get caught eating the cats?
To kill someone's cat in your garden is going to get you arrested.
Eating food is not murder but some may think plants can feel as they are alive so what do you eat then?
My logic makes more sense that your delusions.
To kill someone's cat in your garden is going to get you arrested.
Eating food is not murder but some may think plants can feel as they are alive so what do you eat then?
My logic makes more sense that your delusions.
Perhaps you can think about that yourself. Have you ever killed a fly? You’ve said already you’re pro choice.
Do you genuinely not understand why an individual fly is perhaps not as valued by humans as say a fellow human?
Is your position actually that literally every living thing is of equal value?
How does that tie in with your pro-choice stance?
You’re being a bit silly or didn’t pay attention to the previous answers. Obviously no that wouldn’t be ok, are you not able to read/follow the views already given and concluded why that might be?
How do you feel about the law and allowing people to run over cats and carry on driving, while the law requires you to stop if you hit a pig or a sheep (but they are food and less worthy)
Should be changed, IIRC there is s proposal to do so. Not sure what relevance this has though - do you have some actual point to make here?
Something I've never understood is the difference in sentencing - I was friends with someone at school who carried out a frenzied knife attack on his GF after she broke up with him, she survived, he will never be released and is considered one of the most dangerous prisoners in the UK. There is another guy I know of from my town who did similar only the women he attacked died, he was out after something like 6-8 years and has carried out two violent attacks on people since but to my knowledge was not sent back to prison for either of them.
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^^ @Roff and the guy earlier does not believe me murder today can see you out in as little as 8 years today over longer sentence in decades before. 
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Keep moving the goalposts, did he get caught eating the cats?
To kill someone's cat in your garden is going to get you arrested.
Eating food is not murder but some may think plants can feel as they are alive so what do you eat then?
My logic makes more sense that your delusions.
Ah yes I'm deluded for believing that all killing regardless of motive is equally wrong
The goalposts haven't been moved, either killing is wrong or killing is fine there is no "but it's okay when...."
If anything it's you that are deluded by making justification for killing in circumstances where killing is convenient for you
All life is equal value, answer me this, how do you determine what life is worth more ?
If pushed into starvation I'm sure most of the meat eaters on here would consider a chicken or a cow or a pig more valuable than yourself, does it make them right ? does it make you worthless ?
And lol @ actually thinking humans value each other, you're only valuable as long as they can get something from you even if it's just friendship, stop giving and they'll soon turn their backs on you
Not at all silly to highlight your hypocrisy in seeing no issue with baby chicks being macerated but taking issue with somebody killing cats in the same way
Quite easily, people can choose what blood they wish to be on their conscience free from the hypocrisy of a hierarchy of life
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Various ways, I gave you some examples in a previous post.
You’re not making much sense tbh... if “pushed to starvation” you’re really taking about their own lives.
You didn’t pay attention - I said you were silly to ignore the reasons. If you think there is an inconsistency then please do highlight it, if you do so by selectively ignoring what has been posted then you’re not actually highlighting one. If you disagree with the view then that’s fine, thought throwing in questions or claiming hypocrisy without demonstrating it is silly.
So just to clarify - do you approve of the right to choose but disapprove of abortions themselves?
Do you also approve of the right to eat meat etc... but just disapprove of meat eaters?
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Tricky one there bud, "either killing is wrong or killing is fine there is no 'but it's okay when....'" . . .
How do you feel about the armed Police Officer who killed the terrorist Khalid Masood in March 2017?
Was that a justified killing?
Absolutes have a tendency to be absolutely wrong
Before the usual suspects leap in, I absolutely think stopping Masood was the right thing, even by killing him.
He specifically stated "if you didn't include the cats are someone pets".
I.e. killing a feral cat for no reason would be no morally different to killing a chicken because you prefer the taste of it to vegetarian foods.
Humans by nature are omnivores but in this day and age eating meat is not required for a healthy diet, it's a preference, so that is completely irrelevant.
The laws regarding animal cruelty are very messy, on one hand you can kill and eat an animal for pleasure, but you can't have sex with an animal for pleasure which I personally view as the lesser harm. The laws are based on emotion rather than logic and rationale.
We as a society slaughter millions of animals for pleasure, but we get enraged when someone abuses one a bit, it's a bit of a contradiction don't you think?
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No, and a vegan even with vitamin supplements is not as healthy as they could be if they also ate meat.
We are built to be omnivores so just go with it or they should S**U and eat what they want but do no preach to others.
This topic has been well derailed as I said already, it is about killing someone's pets for no good reason not about eating meat or animals killing each other out of instinct as I so I'm done with it.
We are built to be omnivores so just go with it or they should S**U and eat what they want but do no preach to others.
This topic has been well derailed as I said already, it is about killing someone's pets for no good reason not about eating meat or animals killing each other out of instinct as I so I'm done with it.
That's rubbish, you don't even need vitamin supplements, breakfast cereal is fortified with B12. I'm not preaching to you not to eat meat, but don't try to kid yourself that you need meat to be healthy to try to ease your conscience. The science does not support that.
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I have a friend who switched to a vegan diet. After a short time she started putting on weight and didn't feel well at all. She was taking all the vitamins and supplements you are supposed to take and varied her diet as much as she could within the constraints of being a vegan. She ended up getting blood and genetic tests and it turns out she is someone who requires meat. Her doctors think her liver can't metabolise fat properly on that diet. She started eating meat again and immediately felt better and started losing weight.
i was just veggie from 2014 until last year but realised how this industry and the dairy industry are equally as bad ,never felt better ,but mentally seeing other people not seeing the animal apocalypse (edit holocaust i meant but both work ) is deeply disturbing ,i wasnt ready for that oneEven the RSPCA's guidance on "humanely" destroying unwanted chicks in the egg industry is ****** up
https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry/
Don't click it if you don't want to see the reality of the egg industry
That...... is supposedly humane
Yet we have the hypocrisy to condemn people who are cruel to animals which are pets, I guess cruelty is okay if the end result is full stomach
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What you are describing breaks the laws of physics, you cannot get more energy out than you put in.
FFS! That's 7 months off. Justice delayed is justice denied for both parties. How would you like to have this hanging over your head? Remember that he is presumed innocent until he is found guilty. But try telling that to an employer. Or a landlord wanting rent paid.
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