Donald Trump

[Colonel_Klinck]

No, but it gets her near to the POTUS - only one heart attack away from what she has always wanted, hence the LBJ to JFK reference!

It doesn't matter what people want, it's what SHE wants. She has shown time and time again that she will do ANYTHING to get it, it didn't work last time but she did everything in her power to rig it.

I will spell it out, she can only be VP as she didn't declare early enough, and quite frankly most people don't like her, but she can squeeze in as running mate on the ticket. Then, once(or if), they get elected, there is only one person in her way to being POTUS - she is ruthless enough to do it no doubt.

Also Buttigieg is CIA, he was/is intelligence in the military. Where did he come from? At least Bloomberg had his own money, who's funding Butt'? Creepy Joe failed as a candidate, his mind looks to be on it's way out, so they have not one, but two options. Bloomberg literally came out of nowhere breaking the DNC rules because he had the money to do it, what has Butt' got going for him? I can't see much in him to be honest.. He's gay, so what? It's not like that's any surprise these days, apart from that I don't know much about him - he looks almost robotic, like Liz Warren(the native Indian lier).

I think it was Hillarys plan to have Biden/Hillary ticket, then pension him off when/if they won. Now that won't happen they are on a contingency plan. They can't go with the best, read most popular, candidate, Bernie, as I don't think he would go along with it. So they are still trying what they can to win while getting around the obstacle that is Bernie without making it look as obvious as last time(thanks to seth rich). Again, it won't be long to see if I'm close or not, it would be really funny if I was.

Sorry but you are living in cloud cuckoo land. There is nothing in it for any of the candidates to bring Hilary in. It will do them no good and will potentially harm their candidacy. The way you talk is like she just clicks her fingers and she gets what she wants. Well it didn't work for her in 2008 did it, Obama didn't chose her for VP did he and she only just made the nomination in 2016. Honestly the right is obsessed with Hilary.

I'm not a betting man but I will give £50 to any air ambulance service it she runs if you will do the same if she doesn't??

So anyone that worked in intelligence is "CIA"? Wow so much for public service. So if you worked worked NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO, AIA, MIC or any of the intelligence agencies can't run for POTUS as they are in the CIA pocket? Have you any idea how insane that sounds? I'm not a particularly big fan of his but he stepped up and served his country. Something Trump actively avoided and something none of his kids have ever done. Public service is meant to mean something in the US.

Biden is too old and should step aside. Bloomberg isn't even a democrat but the US has made it clear money is speech, even though I don't agree. If I was a US citizen I would vote for Warren. She is qualified, smart and tough. I think she would hand Trump his arse in a debate. Sadly I don't think she will get the nomination.

 

[plasmahal]

@plasmahal

Do you still think CNN is 'far left' ?

They are as far left as FOX is far right.

 

[neckbeardthethird]

They are as far left as FOX is far right.

I wouldn't say Fox is full on 'far right' like Breitbart but they are without question closer to the far right than CNN is to the far left, id think anyone capable of objectivity would be able to see this.

Fox has no problem pushing traditional far right talking points whereas the chances of CNN doing the same for the far left is minuscule in comparison unless you've managed to convince yourself that believing in things like man made climate change is 'far left'.

I think most people would agree that CNN is closer to being 'centrist' than Fox is.

 

[plasmahal]

pushing traditional far right talking points

Please explain this?

I think most people would agree that CNN is closer to being 'centrist' than Fox is.

Certainly not.

 

[hominid]

Sorry but you are living in cloud cuckoo land. There is nothing in it for any of the candidates to bring Hilary in. It will do them no good and will potentially harm their candidacy. The way you talk is like she just clicks her fingers and she gets what she wants. Well it didn't work for her in 2008 did it, Obama didn't chose her for VP did he and she only just made the nomination in 2016. Honestly the right is obsessed with Hilary.

We will see, as I said it's not long to wait. The only reason I have the lingering feeling is that she has not, dispite being asked multiple times, said that she was going to make another run - avoiding the question outright.

I'm not a betting man but I will give £50 to any air ambulance service it she runs if you will do the same if she doesn't??

I'm not a betting man either. It really doesn't bother me if she runs, as you say she will do way more harm than good if she does, I just get the feeling that she is being sneaky about it this time just because of those reasons.

So anyone that worked in intelligence is "CIA"?

Once CIA always CIA, once you are in the intelligence services you are always linked, sad but very true! The other alphabet agencies not so much but you are CIA for life. Buttigieg IS CIA - 100%.

Wow so much for public service.

These people serve either themselves or the super rich, nothing public about it. We are sheep or cattle to them, they only care about us once every 4 years when they need a vote!

So if you worked worked NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO, AIA, MIC or any of the intelligence agencies can't run for POTUS as they are in the CIA pocket?

George HW Bush was CIA from the early 60's, maybe even earlier(like early 50's straight out of college), he ran for office whilst being CIA and LIED about it under oath - so yes you can.

Have you any idea how insane that sounds?

It may sound insane but it's already happened before, and multiple times. I'm sure some of the work the CIA does is ok, but not all of it that's for sure. JFK wanted the CIA broken up, one of the reasons he had to go. He's not a slick politician, he's a gay(not that that means anything these days) once-CIA man, just for you, that has come out of literally nowhere with 10's of millions of funding and a DNC that is actively trying all they can to sabotage Bernie - look at the shame that was the IOWA caucus!

I'm not a particularly big fan of his but he stepped up and served his country.

Fair enough, I'll give him that no problem.

Something Trump actively avoided and something none of his kids have ever done.

Not everyone has to and they don't have the draft anymore(or compulsory service). The rich only send the poor to war, as it's been for ever.

Public service is meant to mean something in the US.

It's a ticket to line your pockets with lots of Big corp money! Unfortunately, with the moral decline of the world most will go that way.

Biden is too old and should step aside.

Totally agree on that.

Bloomberg isn't even a democrat but the US has made it clear money is speech, even though I don't agree.

Yep, he was a Republican before I read somewhere. He's not an idiot, but I would say he's an average intelligence guy that, because he got massively rich, thinks that he's super intelligent because of it - which only puts him closer to the idiot side himself.

If I was a US citizen I would vote for Warren.

Warren is a Lying robot.

She is qualified

She's a lier so I agree.

Smart and tough.

I might give you smart(ish), after all she had everyone in her whole life thinking she was an Apache Indian or some crap.

I think she would hand Trump his arse in a debate.

No, he already handed Pocahontas her arse a while ago.

Sadly I don't think she will get the nomination.

It's not sad, she's lied all her life but we live in a society that rewards this sort of behavior - just look at Hillary..

They have the candidate, that IS Bernie, they hate that fact and are trying everything so they don't have to have him run. All this rubbish they are doing in the Caucuses, debates is hurting the Democratic party as a whole, people can see it, and it'll take years, if not decades to get over. I look at the Democrates in the US just like Labour here in the UK - they have both lost the plot big time. They are now so far off of the reservation they can't see the way back.

 

[chroniclard]

Trump lies constantly all day every day, so yes, its rewarded.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

The problem with Fox News is they will shamelessly lie if it fits their political bias. MSNBC and CCN will spin and have a liberal bias but they don't openly lie and if they get a story wrong they'll correct it. Fox News simply doesn't care until it gets taken to court. With Fox being the only major conservative cable news channel they have a big audience and a percentage of that audience believes what it sees on Fox or takes the personal opinions of its hosts as facts.

 

[hominid]

I think most people would agree that CNN is closer to being 'centrist' than Fox is.

No, Just no.. CNN, just like MSNBC are so far left that they don't even know it - just like you. We(they)don't have a right wing in politics anymore, that's the problem, we have either far left CCN/MSNBC or what I would call traditionally centerist, now right wing, Fox news - everyone has moved to the left, even the old right wing.

 

[hominid]

MSNBC and CCN will spin and have a liberal bias but they don't openly lie and if they get a story wrong they'll correct it.

MSNBC had Rachel Maddow lie about Trump and Russiagate for 2 years! CNN aren't much better, their host are just intelligent enough to read an auto-cue and that's it. Look at Project Veritas for what they really think! Both for politicians and News channels.

You need to stop watching those channels, honestly, they are all total garbage. If you find something out, read into it if you are interested - they are called programs for a reason!

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

We will see, as I said it's not long to wait. The only reason I have the lingering feeling is that she has not, dispite being asked multiple times, said that she was going to make another run - avoiding the question outright.

I'm not a betting man either. It really doesn't bother me if she runs, as you say she will do way more harm than good if she does, I just get the feeling that she is being sneaky about it this time just because of those reasons.

Once CIA always CIA, once you are in the intelligence services you are always linked, sad but very true! The other alphabet agencies not so much but you are CIA for life. Buttigieg IS CIA - 100%.

These people serve either themselves or the super rich, nothing public about it. We are sheep or cattle to them, they only care about us once every 4 years when they need a vote!

George HW Bush was CIA from the early 60's, maybe even earlier(like early 50's straight out of college), he ran for office whilst being CIA and LIED about it under oath - so yes you can.

It may sound insane but it's already happened before, and multiple times. I'm sure some of the work the CIA does is ok, but not all of it that's for sure. JFK wanted the CIA broken up, one of the reasons he had to go. He's not a slick politician, he's a gay(not that that means anything these days) once-CIA man, just for you, that has come out of literally nowhere with 10's of millions of funding and a DNC that is actively trying all they can to sabotage Bernie - look at the shame that was the IOWA caucus!

Fair enough, I'll give him that no problem.

Not everyone has to and they don't have the draft anymore(or compulsory service). The rich only send the poor to war, as it's been for ever.

It's a ticket to line your pockets with lots of Big corp money! Unfortunately, with the moral decline of the world most will go that way.

Totally agree on that.

Yep, he was a Republican before I read somewhere. He's not an idiot, but I would say he's an average intelligence guy that, because he got massively rich, thinks that he's super intelligent because of it - which only puts him closer to the idiot side himself.

Warren is a Lying robot.

She's a lier so I agree.

I might give you smart(ish), after all she had everyone in her whole life thinking she was an Apache Indian or some crap.

No, he already handed Pocahontas her arse a while ago.

It's not sad, she's lied all her life but we live in a society that rewards this sort of behavior - just look at Hillary..

They have the candidate, that IS Bernie, they hate that fact and are trying everything so they don't have to have him run. All this rubbish they are doing in the Caucuses, debates is hurting the Democratic party as a whole, people can see it, and it'll take years, if not decades to get over. I look at the Democrates in the US just like Labour here in the UK - they have both lost the plot big time. They are now so far off of the reservation they can't see the way back.

Where have you got this story that Buttigieg is CIA? He served in the Navy Reserve. That is a very long way from the CIA. I can't find anything on this other that CT on the left and right that think he's CIA. Got any actual evidence?

The only thing Trump "has" on Warren is the Native American thing. And he used that way too early. No one cares about that anymore. And compared to Trump's almost endless list of lies and controversies its pretty harmless. You thin he is just going to throw that at her for 2 hours on a stage? She could use that 2 hours just to go after his affairs, paying off women, rape and sexual assault allegations, inheritance tax and tax evasion in regards to his father money, Epstein parties, his own tax records and the extreme lengths he is going to to hide them, stealing money from charities, defrauding students with his fake university, the list just goes on and on. Yet you think a stupid claim of being part Native American tops that. Wow you really have a strong moral code there.

You seem to forget what that GOP caucuses were like in 2015/16. You think what is going on now is bad lol. Bernie by rules he helped write in 2015 has to get the majority of delegates by the convention. If he gets that going into the convention he'll get the nomination. So far he's done well in 3 small states. There is a very long way to go. The right seem desperate for Bernie to get the nomination. I'm not sure he will get a majority in the end. I'm not sure who will. It's still early days.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

No, Just no.. CNN, just like MSNBC are so far left that they don't even know it - just like you. We(they)don't have a right wing in politics anymore, that's the problem, we have either far left CCN/MSNBC or what I would call traditionally centerist, now right wing, Fox news - everyone has moved to the left, even the old right wing.

WTF! If you think Fox and the GOP is centrist I'm seriously worried just how right wing you are. You must consider UK politics as full on socialist if you think like that. That is sone scary **** right there.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

MSNBC and CCN will spin and have a liberal bias but they don't openly lie and if they get a story wrong they'll correct it.

The Covington kids would disagree with your statement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2019_Lincoln_Memorial_confrontation

 

[neckbeardthethird]

WTF! If you think Fox and the GOP is centrist I'm seriously worried just how right wing you are. You must consider UK politics as full on socialist if you think like that. That is sone scary **** right there.

Frightening levels of delusion from him, probably the single most bonkers thing he's posted in the entire thread.

Like you say he must be living in absolute hell if he's in the UK

 

[hominid]

Where have you got this story that Buttigieg is CIA? He served in the Navy Reserve. That is a very long way from the CIA. I can't find anything on this other that CT on the left and right that think he's CIA. Got any actual evidence?

I have but I'm not allowed to post it.. The person that has it has also posted stuff that the CIA has a gag order on, which I was suspended for before, so I can't link it. It's out there if you look is all I can say.

The only thing Trump "has" on Warren is the Native American thing.

And a personality.

And he used that way too early. No one cares about that anymore.

Yes they do, it show that she's lied for decades for personal gain(she used it to get a professorship iirc).

And compared to Trump's almost endless list of lies and controversies its pretty harmless.

Not harmless but not the total end of the world either.

You think he is just going to throw that at her for 2 hours on a stage?

Not sure, I'm sure he'll have some more material if need be. But you are forgetting one thing, she has ZERO chance of getting the nomination so it's all mute.

She could use that 2 hours just to go after his affairs, paying off women, rape and sexual assault allegations.

Fair enough on the paying women off, but he's already done that last election. As far as I know he hasn't raped anyone? Not sure on that. Again though, it won't happen so a mute point. I'm sure who ever does will try but Trump is good at deflection that's for sure.

inheritance tax and tax evasion in regards to his father money.

Nothing burger.

Epstein parties.

He's clean on that, else they would have used it by now!

his own tax records and the extreme lengths he is going to to hide them.

He doesn't have to release them, that's what the left can't handle.

stealing money from charities, defrauding students with his fake university, the list just goes on and on. Yet you think a stupid claim of being part Native American tops that. Wow you really have a strong moral code there.

Not at all, it doesn't matter as she has NO CHANCE in getting the nomination, simple as that. If Warren lies about something so petty like her race, what else does she lie about? I don't care as she has NO CHANCE. As for my moral code, thanks! I don't like liers like Warren, used lies to keep ethnic minorities out of a job.

You seem to forget what that GOP caucuses were like in 2015/16.

I remember just fine!

You think what is going on now is bad lol. Bernie by rules he helped write in 2015 has to get the majority of delegates by the convention.

They don't have to follow those rules, the talking heads are already parroting that as Bernie is winning - you watch, they will shaft Bernie again!

If he gets that going into the convention he'll get the nomination.

Wrong. It should be but it won't.

So far he's done well in 3 small states.

Normally that's good enough to call the nomination, hense all the tampering in IOWA, but not this time. I know there are more runners, but half don't have a chance - you know, like Warren

There is a very long way to go.

It won't matter.

The right seem desperate for Bernie to get the nomination.

I'm not right wing. I want Bernie to get the nomination for 2 reasons. He should have had it this time, and the voters want him to do it this time also - both won't matter one bit as the DNC has shown before! I think the DNC should be a democracy, the clue is in the name, but is not that any more - not since Hillary

I'm not sure he will get a majority in the end. I'm not sure who will. It's still early days.

I think Bernie will win but won't be allowed, only if they have no other choice will the even consider it.

I'm not right wing. I know Bernie will not be allowed to run if they can possibly avoid it, just like last time. It won't matter what votes/delegates he gets, as the DNC decides who runs - JUST LIKE LAST TIME. You will learn, it's not a democracy!

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

The Covington kids would disagree with your statement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2019_Lincoln_Memorial_confrontation

Just about every news organisation got that story wrong until the full video come out. Getting a story wrong and knowingly lying is quite different

 

[hominid]

WTF! If you think Fox and the GOP is centrist

I said TRADITIONALLY CENTERIST.
Think about what that means before you bash at the keyboard for a moment.............

Now think back to say the 1980's or so, what was the political landscape like back then? Do you think people have moved more to the right or left since? Now do you get it? are you sure?

I haven't changed my politics in 30 years, it's everyone else, including you and neckbeard, have gone massively to the left. What was centerist, say in the 1980's, is now far right - get it now?

I'm seriously worried just how right wing you are. You must consider UK politics as full on socialist if you think like that. That is sone scary **** right there.

You've not grasped what I was meant, instead of trying to understand anothers' point of view you went off the deep end.

There is no point in voting, it's the illusion of democracy, once you get a few more years you'll see what I mean.

 

[neckbeardthethird]

You say MSNBC and CNN are far left but why do these mainstream left leaning channels go out of their way to give arguably the only far left candidate (Bernie Sanders) a hard time relative to establishment center left candidates ? This happened 4 years ago when their coverage was biased towards Hillary and it's happened again this election cycle. Why do these supposed far left channels keep giving the far left bad press relative to the center left ? Why do they heavily criticise far left groups like ANTIFA and warn about the left going too far to the left ?

Nothing about them is far left, they are left leaning channels with a bias towards establishment center left candidates/policies.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I have but I'm not allowed to post it.. The person that has it has also posted stuff that the CIA has a gag order on, which I was suspended for before, so I can't link it. It's out there if you look is all I can say.



And a personality.

Yes they do, it show that she's lied for decades for personal gain(she used it to get a professorship iirc).

Not harmless but not the total end of the world either.

Not sure, I'm sure he'll have some more material if need be. But you are forgetting one thing, she has ZERO chance of getting the nomination so it's all mute.

Fair enough on the paying women off, but he's already done that last election. As far as I know he hasn't raped anyone? Not sure on that. Again though, it won't happen so a mute point. I'm sure who ever does will try but Trump is good at deflection that's for sure.

Nothing burger.

He's clean on that, else they would have used it by now!

He doesn't have to release them, that's what the left can't handle.

Not at all, it doesn't matter as she has NO CHANCE in getting the nomination, simple as that. If Warren lies about something so petty like her race, what else does she lie about? I don't care as she has NO CHANCE. As for my moral code, thanks! I don't like liers like Warren, used lies to keep ethnic minorities out of a job.

I remember just fine!

They don't have to follow those rules, the talking heads are already parroting that as Bernie is winning - you watch, they will shaft Bernie again!

Wrong. It should be but it won't.

Normally that's good enough to call the nomination, hense all the tampering in IOWA, but not this time. I know there are more runners, but half don't have a chance - you know, like Warren

It won't matter.

I'm not right wing. I want Bernie to get the nomination for 2 reasons. He should have had it this time, and the voters want him to do it this time also - both won't matter one bit as the DNC has shown before! I think the DNC should be a democracy, the clue is in the name, but is not that any more - not since Hillary

I think Bernie will win but won't be allowed, only if they have no other choice will the even consider it.

I'm not right wing. I know Bernie will not be allowed to run if they can possibly avoid it, just like last time. It won't matter what votes/delegates he gets, as the DNC decides who runs - JUST LIKE LAST TIME. You will learn, it's not a democracy!

Sorry but you are out there, way way out there. Damn it must be a nightmare living in your head when you think its all some massive CT yet Trump is clean as a whistle. Deluded.

 

[hominid]

Just about every news organisation got that story wrong until the full video come out. Getting a story wrong and knowingly lying is quite different

Fair enough, But CNN and the Washington Post? carried on the narrative for weeks even after the full video came out. It's cost CNN many millions of dollars and the Washington Post is soon to follow.

crap source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ttles-CNN-undisclosed-275million-lawsuit.html

$275,000,000 supposedly...

 

[hominid]

Sorry but you are out there, way way out there. Damn it must be a nightmare living in your head when you think its all some massive CT yet Trump is clean as a whistle. Deluded.

I never said Trump was clean as a whistle, I said if they had anything on him they would have used it by now.. Don't you think?

I see the world, or at least try to see it, as it is, not how the media portray it. It is getting harder every year as they are getting better at hiding things or mis-information.

If you take anything as truth from me let it be this: You are living in an age where most of what you read is propaganda, either to hide something or to make you think a certain way. Most news a population should know is now hidden from you, like Assange's trial at the moment, that should be headline news night after night - yet all you hear is silence!

Assange's case is the death of journalism!