£2,000 to spend on a PC

32GB will never be used within 5 years.

I have 16GB and I use 6GB whilst gaming on CSGO so 10GB free. I'll need to check when playing Apex but 16GB is overkill right now. 32GB would be what is needed in 10-20 years time.

Depends on the game. Supposedly games like Cities Skylines with lots of mods/tiles and a huge city population can chew through ram.
 
With a budget like that I'd consider getting a nice 1440p monitor to replace your current, you'd still be able to get a very strong system.

the higher res the monitor the more you need to spend on the system.

basically he could have a top 1080p gaming pc for £500.

want a top 1440p gaming pc? well that is now £1500.

by moving that 1 thing you move the goalposts miles away. my advice for anyone is always spec low on the monitor res if you want to keep prices sensible.

OP hasn't listed any games he likes to play. CSGO and fortnite will run on a potato would be madness to be buying a 2080 super when a 1660 super will do the job on those types of games.
 
OP hasn't listed any games he likes to play. CSGO and fortnite will run on a potato would be madness to be buying a 2080 super when a 1660 super will do the job on those types of games.

I'll be looking to play Baldur's Gate 3 this year, games like the Next Elder Scrolls in the future, as well as some other intensive games. Total Warhammer on a full campaign drains my current PC, I think a lot might be due the optimisation but still, it'd be nice to have faster loading times.
 
80 ohm version comes with straight 3m cable, so that's more versatile for connector position.
250 ohm version has coiled cable and benefits from external USB sound card, unless you have PC case on table next to monitor.

So some reason I read this wrong before, if I get a 250 I should probably get a SoundblasterX G1 alongside it?
 
So some reason I read this wrong before, if I get a 250 I should probably get a SoundblasterX G1 alongside it?

The B450 Carbon comes with a 600ohm headphone amplifier, so it should manage fine with the headphones assuming you only plan on using them with the computer. Granted, a better quality AMP will do them more justice, a good external solution could be an example of this.

I wouldn't overly worry about it though, unless you're buying a soundcard of some sort for the positional audio I wouldn't personally bother until after you've tried them with your onboard.
 
The B450 Carbon comes with a 600ohm headphone amplifier, so it should manage fine with the headphones assuming you only plan on using them with the computer. Granted, a better quality AMP will do them more justice, a good external solution could be an example of this.

I wouldn't overly worry about it though, unless you're buying a soundcard of some sort for the positional audio I wouldn't personally bother until after you've tried them with your onboard.

Just really worried about this 250 vs 80 stuff as it's very confusing. I've ordered a 250 now, but feel maybe I should have gone for a 80. (There's still time to cancel.)
 
You'll be fine with what you've ordered, unless you plan on using them with your phone or something anyway. lol

Nope, just my pc. Will try them on my existing PC see how they work. Don't know if this one has a headphone amp, it's a MSI Motherboard X99S SLI PLUS (MS-7885).
 
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Nope, just my pc. Will try them on my existing PC see how they work. Don't know if this one has a headphone amp, it's a MSI Motherboard X99S SLI PLUS (MS-7885).

At worst you'll lack some range in the audio and things will be a tad quiet. I'd reserve judgement until you're using your new mobo.

I don't think the MSI X99 SLI Plus comes with a headphone AMP onboard.
 
Sometimes the phone can surprisingly have a more powerful amp than a PC motherboard, if not better DAC. At least, this is quite common with Apple phones v Windows laptops.

While I can't vouch for DT 770 and Soundblaster G1, those were the headphones to go for if you needed noise isolation, and there's no real reason the G1 shouldn't work well with them if you end up needing a cheap amp solution. For something above 300 Ohms I'd probably get a better soundcard than that? Sensitivity comes into it as well though, not just impedance. It's actually hard to tell, on paper, what'll be a good match. And motherboard makers might exaggerate about onboard amplification as long as you can still hear "a whisper".

So if you're not entirely happy with the oomph or features of the motherboard audio for some reason, and try out the G1, take note of something Creative doesn't specify on the product page - you need to install both sets of software including the Xplus Configurator. On this Xplus thingy, you need to set the headphones to "Generic". This is because out of the box the soundcard is set up for PS4 with less oomph. Then you could use the main software to add Crystalizer (warmer, fun sound) if preferred, etc etc. Personally, I have some Crystalizer and some Bass enabled, with Surround, Smart Volume and Dialog Plus disabled. But this depends on the headphones and one's own taste.
 
The exaggeration about motherboard amps is somewhat correct from what @Danny75 is saying. They're often pretty low end stuff, but that said the DT770's aren't exactly high end headphones, and they're not planars or something obtuse in regard to amplification. When it comes to a phone, some are great, but generally I'd not pair a 250ohm headphone with one.

I run a fairly high end headphone setup myself, I've sort of been quiet about it because it can become more confusing. There's so much right and wrong info that it can drive someone wild, and even beyond that it could cause them to spend a lot of money they don't necessarily need to spend. Danny is absolutely right in what he's saying, though, perhaps I've been a little bit withdrawn in how things work when it comes to audio. I will go back to what I said earlier, try your new headphones with your new (B450 Carbon) and see how you feel.

It's very, very easy to fall down the rabbit hole with audio.
 
I'm not sure about going 32Gb of ram at this point unless you know your definitely going to need it. By the time 32Gb becomes relevant ram will have moved on and become faster and more responsive (lower latencies) so you might as well wait and upgrade to a 32Gb kit.
 
Have some issues with the surround sound whislt gaming. No doubt the DT770 250 ohm sound amazing listening to music, but playing a FPS the surround sound feels really harsh. I've used the SoundblasterX G1 and I couldn't seem to limit it, I tried it with no software or 'virtual surround sound' on and it still felt jarring. Maybe I need to get use to it, I have to say though, using them with Razer's Surround Sound app on made it a lot better. Maybe it's just what I'm use too, it seems to blend the different directions of audio in better.

Though I'm getting a headache playing with the closed cup earphones so thinking of trying the DT990 Pro, just alittle worried because those are also 250 ohm and perhaps I need to have something less sensitive, like a 80.

Any help in the next hour would be great as I can get same day delivery in the next 50 mins.
 
DT 990 Pro are very trebley. You could be moving from one harsh-sounding pair to another.

What about the motherboard onboard sound? Was it fine for those headphones or lacking?
 
DT 990 Pro are very trebley. You could be moving from one harsh-sounding pair to another.

What about the motherboard onboard sound? Was it fine for those headphones or lacking?

Well I tried it in my motherboard (no amp) just plug and play, with the Soundblasterx G1 USB and plugged in to a Genius SW-G2.1 1250 I bought 5 years ago. The surround sounds seems really strong unless I use Razer Surround Sound app, maybe I'm just not use to it but it really gives me a headache.

Also not a fan of closed cup headsets now, having this Razer Kraken I prefer being a bit more open.
 
Well I tried it in my motherboard (no amp) just plug and play, with the Soundblasterx G1 USB and plugged in to a Genius SW-G2.1 1250 I bought 5 years ago. The surround sounds seems really strong unless I use Razer Surround Sound app, maybe I'm just not use to it but it really gives me a headache.

Also not a fan of closed cup headsets now, having this Razer Kraken I prefer being a bit more open.

I prefer open-back headphones for a few reasons too. Healthier on ear drums as well.
 
Read some reviews and seems solid so given them a purchase, will let you know how I get on with them later. Thanks Danny75.

This video was pretty helpful reviewing them.
 
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