You're not wrong. No one really needs anything but a 3600/9600k for gaming. Most people who buy higher end parts have some spare cash they don't need it buy it anyway because they want to feel good by getting a good score. So yes like you said a lot of PC gamers spend half their time looking at bar charts
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Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread
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You're not wrong. No one really needs anything but a 3600/9600k for gaming. Most people who buy higher end parts have some spare cash they don't need it buy it anyway because they want to feel good by getting a good score. So yes like you said a lot of PC gamers spend half their time looking at bar charts
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It makes no difference to me what the chance of the risk is, it's the fact there are so many different exploits, who knows what else they'll eventually find, it could even be something that's simple to exploit.
So for me at least Intel are not a choice at the moment. Hopefully that will change when they release a new redesigned architecture, then they'll be back on the table for me.
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Zen is a codename used by AMD staff and engineers to refer to a product before release and before officially named.
3rd gen Ryzen is called 3600, 3700 etc. The naming works perfectly. We, the public aren't supposed to be using the zen name. That's just for internal use and perhaps on slides at trade shows.
Or as the yanks say "Mul tie player". So presumably when they're doing "math" (as they call it) they also Mul tie ply.
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FYI anything over 1.28v degrades the silicon if you load the CPU at all core 100% load. Try to lower it.
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this is the lowest voltage i can run at 4.4ghz all core, most of the time in gaming i hit around 65-71 under load, during more cpu intensive loads i can see upto 81 degrees but try not to run such tests for long periods of time or at all if i can help it. If i drop the voltage close to 1.3v my all core overclock is 4.2ghz and no more, constant freezing and bsod's
I'll be looking at next gen ryzen anyway so if the chip degrades by the time the new stuff is out no worries just swap out and carry on, cut the pins off my 3900x and place it on my shelf
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Zen2 Vcore is 1.325v not 1.28v for all core/full load. And 1.47v for single core. That's down from 1.4v that Zen & Zen+ was previous.
So 1.335v will be fine because it won't be all core/full load whilst gaming etc.
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yeah max usage i see in any game i play is around 8-10 cores being used to around 60-80% usually, its only under benchmark conditions that i see everything go to 100% then temps are a bit warm, but i can live with that
well back to the Intel thread ppl we got a bit side tracked XD
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I would strongly advice people do NOT follow this advice and do the FIT test on their own chip.
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ejd5c9/1325v_is_not_safe_for_zen_2/
We've seen a fair number of users going into the OC subreddit and OC discord server with degraded CPU's due to heeding the magical 1.325v number that was taken out of context.
If you do degrade your CPU, please don't RMA scam it either.
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I'm not if my chip dies I'll cut the pins off and place on my shelf as a reminder of such a beastly chip it was
It's also about longevity. Buy
Yeap, could do with a mod cleaning up and giving out infractions for off-topic discussion here. People coming here want 10th gen Intel discussion.
A warranty is a warranty it's up to the manufacturer to prove the product was used outside stock spec. Same as someone who enables pbo and degrades it.
And to claim high voltage alone degrades it, explain why my 3950x idles at 1.5v..because what degrades the chip is when amps x volts exceeds the max the cpu can handle. Someone who runs rendering all day pushing 100% load should not overclock, that's where you degrade the chip. For me just gaming, high voltage doesn't really matter because the load on the cpu is always low.
In fact in my testing average voltage while stock is higher while gaming than overclocked
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leading quite nicely back to Intel, a few video's on YouTube showing the warranty claim's on supposedly defective cpu's one question that always popped up was has the ram be used above 2666mhz, which was replied mostly no, although we all knew it was 3200mhz and a good 80% of calls asked this and Intel honored the warranty and replaced said cpu's. but its funny that Intel would ask if the ram was above 2666mhz, due to the cpu's only official support maybe at the time.
the 10900k has a boost to 2933mhz support but i suspect they would ask a similar question if the new gen chips developed issues, play it safe and tell the truth and no replacement or lie and get another cpu regardless.
Ive been wondering this, does running RAM on XMP profile risk causing damage to the CPU?
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for Intel yes if you push voltages too far. The imc will degrade and previous ram speed will not be achievable it can be so bad that 2133mhz will not work. then you have to rma, setting the ram voltage and vtt? (i forget the exact one but you can overvolt the imc on the chip, its more delicate than amd's imc
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Are they using anti-freeze or salt water or what because afaik water freezes at 0c (zero)?
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i thought that benchmark was done on a 280mm aio, i did have to wonder why the temps looked off i mean 62 degrees full load thats pretty good, but knowing a waterchiller was needed, just makes this launch more laughable, you'd need one hell of a watercooling setup to get anywhere near a all core 5.1ghz+
oh dear Intel
It's what happens when you first announce if in July 2019 in order to counter Zen 2 (get people to wait) and it still isn't out by May 2020.
This thread was originally created and used by some to counter Zen 2.