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deuse said:
Wrong in so many ways.
I already posted links for this. But for people who DON'T read the whole thread.

https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-questions-at-start-of-outbreak-idUSKBN21B160
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You've been watching Fox or "reading" QAanon twitter feeds again haven't you. Do you ever actually read the articles you link? Because they don't say what you think they say and WHO twitter feed is there to be searched like every other twitter feed. You can see what they said and when they said it. It was implied from day 1 that this was spreading human to human because that is how these things spread and 40+ people already had it. They won't say it was spreading that way until they have definitive evidence that is the case because that is how science works.

deuse said:
The WHO was very late telling people by 2 weeks.
Germany found that out as well as the Taiwan's Government.

Be cause the Taiwan's Government has done very good. Most major countries are back Taiwan to join the WHO.
Even though china does not want them to.
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Is English your first language? If it isn't then fair enough but if it is wtf!

Yes its known to all that China doesn't recognise Taiwan but you know who else doesn't recognise the Taiwanese Gov or that it is a sovereign state? The US.
 
chroniclard said:
People know he is an ass hat, people know he lies, people know he is an immoral scroat, they simply dont care because they think the establishment elite are worse.

Also, lots of his supporters are morons.
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Ok, he's a protest vote I can understand that but how do they keep banging the drum in his favour, the man's certifiable?
 
Not only does Trump appear to have a stake in Sanofi the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine. But Trump’s three family trusts, as of last year, each had investments in a mutual fund whose largest holding was Sanofi. Its all just corruption and money making for Druggy Trump.
 
plasmahal said:
REALLY! So people with years of medical school and experience wasted their time then, OK. A bizarre narrow minded view TBH and an insult to doctor's etc everywhere.
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Someone either doesn't know what the meaning of diagnose is or thinks it's impossible for non-medically trained people to identify the nature of an illness or other problem by examination of the symptoms.

Did your mum rush you to the doctors at every snivel or tummy ache when you were a kid?
Pottsey said:
Not only does Trump appear to have a stake in Sanofi the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine. But Trump’s three family trusts, as of last year, each had investments in a mutual fund whose largest holding was Sanofi. Its all just corruption and money making for Druggy Trump.
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From everything I've read though it seems that's such a small investment and unlikely that he would even be aware that the fund he invested in has shares in Sanofi, as someone else put if you're corupt there are far more profitable and less obvious things you could do. Unfortunately the "he's doing it for profit" argument doesn't hold much water, i say unfortunately as that sort of reduces the reason why he's doing it down to him being a bit of a nutter, not a quality you really want in someone with so much power.
 
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Murphy said:
Someone either doesn't know what the meaning of diagnose is or thinks it's impossible for non-medically trained people to identify the nature of an illness or other problem by examination of the symptoms.

Did your mum rush you to the doctors at every snivel or tummy ache when you were a kid?
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I doubt it, she appears to have done nothing after dropping him on his head.
 
Murphy said:
Someone either doesn't know what the meaning of diagnose is or thinks it's impossible for non-medically trained people to identify the nature of an illness or other problem by examination of the symptoms.

Did your mum rush you to the doctors at every snivel or tummy ache when you were a kid?

From everything I've read though it seems that's such a small investment and unlikely that he would even be aware that the fund he invested in has shares in Sanofi, as someone else put if you're corupt there are far more profitable and less obvious things you could do. Unfortunately the "he's doing it for profit" argument doesn't hold much water, i say unfortunately as that sort of reduces the reason why he's doing it down to him being a bit of a nutter, not a quality you really want in someone with so much power.
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It does seem like his personal holding is small but from what I can gather the 3 Trust holdings are massive. Although I am still not 100% convinced its all down to money or that Trump is really taking it. Though it does go a long way to explain why Trump has been so unhinged the past few weeks. If he does have those side effects it would explain all the CT nonsense he has been pushing.
 
Pottsey said:
Not only does Trump appear to have a stake in Sanofi the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine. But Trump’s three family trusts, as of last year, each had investments in a mutual fund whose largest holding was Sanofi. Its all just corruption and money making for Druggy Trump.
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Man posts like this make me look forward to him getting elected again
 
plasmahal said:
That's it, you jump on the deranged TDS CT bandwagon.
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Are you saying its a CT that Trump is morbidly obese? I think it's clear for all to see he's morbidly obese.

I'm not sure an adderall addict should be taking a drug that messes with cardiac function... although it could do the world a massive favour. I'd vote to double the dose!
 
plasmahal said:
REALLY! So people with years of medical school and experience wasted their time then, OK. A bizarre narrow minded view TBH and an insult to doctor's etc everywhere.
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Well there you go, you can draw wild conclusions from anything that people say :rolleyes: I didn't say anything about medical school being a waste of time did I? No, I didn't. You specifically asked whether they should have a background to read a label and apply things to an individuals behaviour when exposed to that behaviour. I responded by saying that you don't have to be a qualified medical professional to be able to read some side effects on a packet of medicine (they'd be pretty damn pointless if you needed to be medically trained to understand them) and then determine whether they've affected someone. Because let's face it, if you're unable to behaviourally determine whether someone is potentially under the side effects of medication that they're taking, how would you ever determine whether actual medical intervention is required as a normal non-medically trained person?

Do I need a degree to determine if someone is experiencing known side effects from medication if I know they've taken that medication and I've seen them experiencing them? No, surely not. Do I need to have a medical degree to determine whether some medication that causes nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea are what's causing me to have, well, nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea after I've taken that medication? No, it doesn't work like that, does it? Because if it did, nobody would be allowed to go back to their GP to say that they've experienced side effects because "lol, you're not medically trained so you have no idea whether you've actually been shooting from both ends sir, so please go away, study up, get your degree and then come back and we'll talk!" By which time I've probably suffered another more serious side effect and I'm, well, dead or something. So no, side effect advice doesn't work the way that you've portrayed it at all and you know that.

But sure, add whatever you need to your weak argument. You know what I said and what I meant, but it's more convenient to dodge around that and create sensationalism for your own needs. It's rather sad and pathetic tbh. And no, I don't need any sort of degree to determine that.
 
Pottsey said:
You must really hate America. I never understood people like you who want to make America weak and turning them into more of the worlds joke.
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I like America, but Trump like's Britain a lot more than Obama did. Trump says a lot of silly things, but I don't think anyone would view America as weak.
 
Lets assume for one minute that the World Health Organisation were some puppet of China.

What has that got to do with the poor response by the USA (and UK) and the high number of deaths? Plenty of other countries who followed the WHO advice are doing much better off.
 
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