NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[HummuH1]

They keep raisin.

I can't let this pass without some appreciation. Bravo.

 

[Illuminist]

I can't let this pass without some appreciation. Bravo.

You two should date

 

[McGraw]

You two should date

berry good

 

[XeNoNF50]

Agreed I'm massively tempted by a PS5, never owned any PS but I have a 50" 1080 Sony Bravia which has great picture quality and I'd love to race or fight with mates when they come around for £450-500 rather than pay £1300 for 15-25% on what I have now. I can already run AAA games with most bells and whistles and decent MSAA 60fps at 4K.

There's barely any game my 1080ti struggles with at 3440x1440. Plenty of others in similar situations. Small incremental upgrades for same prices as previous gen will not work for them this time I don't think, particularly competing with next gen consoles.

I'd rather buy a console for both the upstairs and downstairs and use the spare change for a few beers than a 3080ti if that's the path they go down.

 

[JediFragger]

Errrrrrrrr.......errrrrrrrrrrrrrr................grapes!!!!!

 

[Phixsator]

It won't and even if theirs competition who's to say they competitors won't join in on the money grabbing since its "accepted" now anyway?

The only reason why i jumped on a 2080 was because it came with a waterblock which i needed and it still retained its 4 years gigabyte extended warranty and a much much cheaper price than retail (About what you would have paid for a 2070), otherwise hell no i'd probs be rocking a 5700xt now lol.

Yeah, it certainly does look like AMD could be trying to get its share of the new Nvidia price pie. It's very simple to me. If the current price structure or worse is applied to the next generation GPU's then I'm not buying. My Vega 64 will just have to suck it up and be enough and if it isn't I simply don't bother with the title it's struggling at. I just got my second child a few months back, bills are plenty, time is limited and I don't have time for AMD nor Nvidia playing hard to get with their products. They can go **** themselves if that's their strategy.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the overall stack (i.e all models). Big Navi could very well compete with a 3080 Ti but that's one card. What about all the rest? Nvidia's blanketing every cent & decimal of performance with its own model. For AMD you're gonna have 5700 XT & a bunch of nothing competing against 2060 Super, 2070, 2070 Super, 2080, 2080 Super, 3060, 3060 Ti, 3070, 3070 Ti, 3080 up until we reach Big Navi, which will compete with either 3080 or 3080 Ti.

Do you not see a problem with having no GPUs for anywhere between £300-400 and what's likely to be £700-800? I understand they'll both bring out the lower-end GPUs later (and we'll see if it takes AMD an extra year to do so compared to Nvidia again), but in the meantime Nvidia still has a full fat stack of a thousand different models and AMD has nothing.

They'll have cut down versions of Big Navi at each price point. They won't just have a 80 compute unit card and a 40 compute unit card with nothing in between

 

[diamount]

There's barely any game my 1080ti struggles with at 3440x1440. Plenty of others in similar situations. Small incremental upgrades for same prices as previous gen will not work for them this time I don't think, particularly competing with next gen consoles.

I'd rather buy a console for both the upstairs and downstairs and use the spare change for a few beers than a 3080ti if that's the path they go down.

I run a 1080ti at that resolution and it struggles a fair bit at Ultra settings - what settings are you using? FPS?

 

[scubes]

If the keep price like the 2080ti they can keep them.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

But the genie now is out of the bottle. Various indicators, like people paying thousands on in-game purchases, and the simple fact that people keeping buying nV cards at almost any price - these things have shown nV that the sky really is the limit.

They could double today's prices and people would still buy. So... why wouldn't they?

I bet tons here would buy a 3080Ti for £2000.

A £2 micro transaction is much easier to swallow than a £1000+ graphics card.
I asked this earlier and someone did confirm that Nvidia were dissapointed with the sales of the 2000 series card.

AMD was happy to tout ryzens performance gains before release, given that they have talked about performance per watt gains so far and so close to release I think people are setting them up for Vega levels of disappointment

At the time AMD were on their last leg and needed to drum up hype to keep the company afloat.
Intel would not have been able to respond to Ryzen at the time. Nivdia can respond to any performance leaks regarding Navi 2.

There is no reason for AMD to talk about performance of Navi 2x right now. All it would do is help Nvidia.

 

[five8five]

No way that videocardz chart is true.
If the 3070 = 1080ti minus £100 3 years later it's a ps5 for me.
2000 series has seen people lose their minds around price vs performance.

Have to agree, I think it's fake. I can't find it on Videocardz or with an image search.
Also, tellingly @humbug won't respond regarding the source of it.

 

[XeNoNF50]

I run a 1080ti at that resolution and it struggles a fair bit at Ultra settings - what settings are you using? FPS?

I've got the EVGA FTW3 Hybrid, generally mostly play controller based single player games so I'm happy 50fps minimums on ultra with gsync. Recently played through Star Wars, Control, Division 2 with no issues on ultra. Though recently F1 2020 (80-100fps) and Rocket League (a lot more) are my jam and they're incredibly easy to run on ultra.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

There is no reason for AMD to talk about performance of Navi 2x right now. All it would do is help Nvidia.

frustrating as that might be I think you are right, for AMD it suits them to drag this out I don't expect to hear much until Nvidia have spilt the beans. Nvidia on the other have everything to gain by going as soon as possible (with stock and supplies) in order to have another bite of the uncontested cherry. I think its going to be hard for Maxwell and Pascal owners to resist an Ampere release if it launches ahead of AMD and consoles, I've no doubt that Nvidia will time it to maximum commercial effect within the realms of what is possible. The smart thing to do will be to wait it out until all options are on the table but that's not going to be easy and a lot of people will inevitably pre-order without a care.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

I've got the EVGA FTW3 Hybrid, generally mostly play controller based single player games so I'm happy 50fps minimums on ultra with gsync. Recently played through Star Wars, Control, Division 2 with no issues on ultra. Though recently F1 2020 (80-100fps) and Rocket League (a lot more) are my jam and they're incredibly easy to run on ultra.

There are lots of games I can't max out on my 1080ti FC5 I could'nt , gears 5, control , metro was borderline as it dipped a lot (even xcom2 runs like ass at 3440x1400 with lots of dips into the 20s and 40s when you blow a hole in a building). I could'nt max out my 2nd play through of the witcher 3 at 4k (need to drop down shadows and foliage and no game works effects) even then it still dips below 60fps often. BL3 shruggled but the DX12 patch and turning a few effects down has fixed that

Hence why ill will be upgrading for cyperpunk

 

[Poneros]

Have to agree, I think it's fake. I can't find it on Videocardz or with an image search.
Also, tellingly @humbug won't respond regarding the source of it.

lol that's pretty funny

the source was me, but I deleted the post shortly after posting and it remained cached in the forum. the performance/price on the right hand side was simply my speculation.

Spoiler: the updated one

 

[Grim5]

That pricing is rather optimistic

 

[Satchfanuk]

They'll have cut down versions of Big Navi at each price point. They won't just have a 80 compute unit card and a 40 compute unit card with nothing in between

Exactly, we already know of three chips under the RDNA2 architecture, Navi 21/22/23, each of which will be in multiple variant of graphics cards.

On top of this, AMD are meant to be rebranding Navi 1x into their correct price points at the lower end.

If you then factor in the rumours of a separate ASIC for deep-learning(?) which could provide DLSS type stuffs, things start to get interesting.

If nothing else, the rumour mill is never a dull place

 

[Stu999]

lol that's pretty funny

the source was me, but I deleted the post shortly after posting and it remained cached in the forum. the performance/price on the right hand side was simply my speculation.

Spoiler: the updated one

I don’t think the 3070 will be 18% below 2080TI 4K performance. It would be very disappointing if that was the case.

 

[Quartz]

Nvidia seem to be keeping the leaks coming nicely. Launch should be soon.

 

[Stu999]

Nvidia seem to be keeping the leaks coming nicely. Launch should be soon.

What do people think: August or September launch event?