NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Jacky60]

That's like NVIDIA's marketing team - their key board keeps adding an extra 0 to the price

 

[TNA]

That's like NVIDIA's marketing team - their key board keeps adding an extra 0 to the price

make mine a double if your buying mate lol

No-one will probably even notice with all the spam going on in this thread.

He doesnt buy often.. 4k native is enough!

 

[Shaz12]

Are there any recent rumors about the power consumption of the RTX 3090? Will a 650W PSU be enough?

 

[kazuya1337]

Are there any recent rumors about the power consumption of the RTX 3090? Will a 650W PSU be enough?

I'm sorry, but a only power source capable of generating 1.21 gigawatts will power a 3090

 

[aoaaron]

So there seems to be a world-wide lube shortage in areas which a high density of PC-gamers following NVIDIA's announcement that they're going to be doing something on September 1st.

I convinced myself I won't be upgrading GPU this year as the money would be better pumped into a projector or sound or HP Reverb G2, but I'm coming around to the point that I'll probably drop the cash.

Secondhand market is going to be flooded with awesome deals. I see in the future £400 2080s, £600 2080TIs.

 

[aoaaron]

I personally hope.. NVIDIA are ... somewhat.. sensible.. and by sensible, i mean just please match the already utter trash pricing of the 20 series.

£1000-12000 for the 2080ti equivalent
£800 for the 2080 equivalent
etc. etc.

If they decide to add ANOTHER tier for the 3090.. then honestly I'm just beyond words and sensible responses.


I honestly feel around £1000 quid should get you their top of the line GPU... if they are going to make that price point £2000 now, then we are in trouble.

 

[Calin Banc]

Yeah, quite a big assumption that the consoles will be ~£500 although I'd guess MS may be willing to take more of a loss on each unit.

Both aren't cheap to make, but I guess the prices were taken down a notch or tow compared to where they would have like them to be (due to Corona situation).

All this madness and "sources" giving out prices could also mean a nice marketing campaign. They could get away with selling the 2080ti still at $1000 mark and call it a bargain since everyone was expecting what... $1500, closer to $2000?

Like this you can still have your prices higher than previous, normal ones, and induce into your buyers the idea of an awesome deal. Win-win for the seller... Crowd goes wild... Illusion level 100.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Yeah, quite a big assumption that the consoles will be ~£500 although I'd guess MS may be willing to take more of a loss on each unit.

It’s unlikely they will. I’d imagine $5-600 for both, perhaps more on the XSX.

They’d be making a loss at $1000 sale price to be honest never mind $500 .

Far more expensive to produce than last gen. but I guess they will have some kind of super deal with manufacturers to bring the costs right down. Costs $10 for 1gb of gddr6 for example.

 

[five8five]

£1000-12000 for the 2080ti equivalent
£800 for the 2080 equivalent



I honestly feel around £1000 quid should get you their top of the line GPU... if they are going to make that price point £2000 now, then we are in trouble.

Careful, you'll give Nvidia ideas

Agree with you regarding pricing.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Yeah, quite a big assumption that the consoles will be ~£500 although I'd guess MS may be willing to take more of a loss on each unit.

It’s unlikely they will. I’d imagine $5-600 for both, perhaps more on the XSX.

They’d be making a loss at $1000 sale price to be honest never mind $500 .

Far more expensive to produce than last gen. but I guess they will have some kind of super deal with manufacturers to bring the costs right down. Costs $10 for 1gb of gddr6 for example.

 

[five8five]

No wonder Nvidia are so expensive with so many of you umming and ahing over which Nvidia card to go for. They've got a sale from you regardless. Some are even thinking Nvidia card Vs console.

They will never lower their prices with such a loyal fan base.

Competing chip makers do exist but are destined to fail it seems.

You do realise that it's speculation and rumour.
Card specs, pricing and performance havn't been confirmed.

What are the competing chip makers actually offering? All I see in the AMD thread is the same speculation and rumour.

Do you not feel that AMD are missing a trick by releasing second?

 

[BigBANGtheory]

at what point does it just become accepted that this is what they're charging for their hardware?

Genuine question, I'm not trying to be antagonistic.

For some individuals never, in the general sense when enough people buy the products whether they like or agree with the price or not otherwise manufacturer and retails are forced to re-evaluate things.

I don't like the price of heating oil but I've got very little choice and no say in its purchase price just who to buy it from and my rate of consumption.

It will be interesting to see what Apple does it was seeing a lot of sales growth in China until recently and a lot of western countries/users just aren't upgrading... I think they will be forced to look at different products and pricing in the future they are a very wealthy company but they are accountable for their growth and share price too and that's all these companies really care about at the top

 

[danlightbulb]

Far more expensive to produce than last gen.

Why is it?

Materials cost - same.
Labour cost - same
Shipping etc - same

The only thing that costs money up front is R&D development, and machinery/tooling, which has to be recouped over the product life. Why should this have gone up compared to last gen?

 

[ik9000]

Why would they have drivers for unsupported, unpatched and thus and insecure operating systems?

Everyone should be on Windows 10 by now.

In your opinion. But I would ask why? I am on a great OS with no forced adverts, MSstore or telemetry and I am happy that way. I'll take the risk on "security". I have a 2nd drive for win10 too for banking and stuff where it really matters. But the bulk of my paid software has win7 licences that won't expire or require annual payments and I see no reason to move. Plus a lot of my older games won't run on win10 and I don't see why I should buy them again. I need a card that will run on win7 and win10. RTX2000 has win7 and 8 drivers available, most recently updated in July2020. I just wonder if the RTX3000 series will too.

 

[five8five]

Can I ask why people are so unwilling to accept prices? There are two manufacturers, and they can set whatever price they want right?

Are you all waiting for some unbelievable deal like when the 8800GT came out in 2007? The advice on this forum has been "wait for this" "wait for prices" for as long as I can remember, at what point does it just become accepted that this is what they're charging for their hardware?

Genuine question, I'm not trying to be antagonistic.

For me, the pricing of Ampere will confirm whether Turing was a one-off or is the new norm.

 

[FoxEye]

Can I ask why people are so unwilling to accept prices? There are two manufacturers, and they can set whatever price they want right?

Are you all waiting for some unbelievable deal like when the 8800GT came out in 2007? The advice on this forum has been "wait for this" "wait for prices" for as long as I can remember, at what point does it just become accepted that this is what they're charging for their hardware?

Genuine question, I'm not trying to be antagonistic.

People don't have unlimited amounts of money.
Gaming, whilst a luxury, has always been accessible to the masses, unlike other more exclusive forms of entertainment. PC gaming a bit less so to start with, but eventually became relatively affordable.
Crucially, every time we accept and buy into a new, inflated set of prices, we tell the manufacturer that it's OK to keep pushing prices up and up and up.

If it's OK to push up prices 20% this gen, then we will be looking at another 20% next gen, and the gen after...

Frankly I don't want to keep giving Jensen more and more of my hard earned, and will not do so - even if I'm in the minority and the rest just keep paying. Everybody makes their own decisions.

 

[imginy]

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No wonder Nvidia are so expensive with so many of you umming and ahing over which Nvidia card to go for. They've got a sale from you regardless. Some are even thinking Nvidia card Vs console.

They will never lower their prices with such a loyal fan base.

Competing chip makers do exist but are destined to fail it seems.

There is a lot of is waiting for the new Nvidia card who are stuck on 1070/1080 and skipped the last generations and also lots wanting hdmi 2.1 for out home cinemas.

I tried the 5700xt a few months ago and it was complete disaster trying to run on my qled TV. HDR didn't work at all and it refused to run 1440p 120hz and every time I rebooted a game the resolution would change. Freesync worked but it was stuttering like crazy and without freesync games were laggy.
So it will be couple of years before I dare to touch AMD card again, especially when paired with this qled TV.
I would rather get nvidia card pay an extra £200 than have to deal with anything like that again. It was very stressful trying to get it to work and 30 hours of my life I will never get back

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yea and it can only go so far.

This time they have a lot more competition.



That is why I can’t see those prices being accurate. I can see the 3070 being around £500 though, especially if it has 16gb vram.


Seems I will be skipping the launch as the 3070 comes in October. Fine by me as I need the card in November anyways. I would go 3080 if it was £600 but looks like they will want £800 for it, so they can keep that.

I hope the pricing to be more competitive,but the problem it took ages for even Apple to realise,they need to realise some better price phones,and that was after they started losing sales for a while. It is going to dependent on whether Nvidia thinks margins or more sales are important. Also there is Cyberpunk 2077,and that game will help them sell more GPUs.

People don't have unlimited amounts of money.
Gaming, whilst a luxury, has always been accessible to the masses, unlike other more exclusive forms of entertainment. PC gaming a bit less so to start with, but eventually became relatively affordable.
Crucially, every time we accept and buy into a new, inflated set of prices, we tell the manufacturer that it's OK to keep pushing prices up and up and up.

If it's OK to push up prices 20% this gen, then we will be looking at another 20% next gen, and the gen after...

Frankly I don't want to keep giving Jensen more and more of my hard earned, and will not do so - even if I'm in the minority and the rest just keep paying. Everybody makes their own decisions.

But,but apparently people have no choice to spend £100s more on GPUs on launch day. They can't wait for RRP prices,let alone better prices!

 

[smogsy]

bought my 1080ti on release date in 2017. it lastest me very well & could probably be ok for another year at 4K but will most likely get the 3080TI or may consider 3080 & get the 4080 right after (depending on pricing)

 

[Five.Stars]

It’s unlikely they will. I’d imagine $5-600 for both, perhaps more on the XSX.

They’d be making a loss at $1000 sale price to be honest never mind $500 .

Far more expensive to produce than last gen. but I guess they will have some kind of super deal with manufacturers to bring the costs right down. Costs $10 for 1gb of gddr6 for example.

The cost of either console will start with a 4.