One of the recent rumours had the RT performance at 2x. At the moment we just don't know.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Think you'll get more than that on the auction site. There's a certain kudos attached to the high-end Nvidia cards and they hold their value.
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I think a lot of people wouldn't mind if the rasterization performance got a big bump.Great 2x faster RT, to use on nothing.
That's what people said last time
Ok here we are.
Im HOPEFUL that Nvidia won't come in with ridiculous Turing-esc pricing this gen. They know they priced 1st Turing too high, they didn't sell well and thats why they brought out the supers. Sorry but only mugs bought the original line-up. Nvidia are facing a different situation this time around.
- Consumers are being much more careful with their money RE Covid.
- Cloud gaming is making the need for hardware at all redundant
- A new batch of consoles is just around the corner.
Anyone of these things can spell disaster for Nvidia and they know they have to be careful this time. I think we actually might get decent cards for a fair(ish) price. Honestly if they put the price up again they will have just sealed their fate in the personal GPU space. Turing was a failed greedy experiment.
It's not correct, it's a flawed comparison, because it stands to reason that high-end performance moves down to lower tiers through the generations as progress is made, and it happens in many types of electronics. The direct and simplistic comparison of a 1080 Ti to a 3060 doesn't take into account the changes in architectural changes and improvements or new features, either.
You also don't need to flag my username like a little kid trying to get attention.
A lot people go on price and they have a set price and that is all they care about as such they look at a certain price point each generation and notice if the performance goes up at all or stays the same.
I am still on a 580 but I don't game a lot now, I will get a upgrade when I think it is worth it, the days have gone trying to get every ouch of performance out of my system, spent to much time playing around like that instead of playing games.
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So let me get this straight the top tier TI is now gona be called the ultr, there is no TI coming out later higher or lower than the ultra? Basically the Ultra is what we regard as the TI just with a change of name. And the £600 top graphics card or what it should be is expecting to be around £2000 due to hikes in the last few years.
Again. Turing sold POORLY. People need to realise that Nvidia can't and won't just keep whacking prices up. There is a profit optimum price band. Making something more expensive doesn't mean you make more money. Nvidia made more profit from Pascal than Turing. Turing was an experient to see what consumers were willing to pay, which they were able to do because of the lack of cards from AMD. But they now know that the price was too high.
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That's what people said last time
The economy has tanked and were in a pandemic. People can't afford £1000 for small increase, PS5 is going to sell like hot cakes
They should keep with TI and just keep adding a I like TII and TIII amd could do XT and then XTT and XTTT so you could have 3090TI and 3090TII and 3090TIII and they don't have to worry about running out of numbers and AMD could do the same with XT,XTT,XTTT.
Added: you could have 3090TI and 3090TII and go up to 3090TIIIIIIIII Nvidia could say look you getting a 3090TI for £350 you could only get a 2060s at that price last generation.
Turing sold poorly? Where did you get your figures from?
I went through 5 of those damn things, the only way to use SLI at the time, just the most unreliable motherboard chipset ever.
Steam hardware survey. Last time I checked the 970 was still ahead of both the 2070 normal and super.
It didn't sell "poorly" overall, it had slow sales after release for a quarter or two but then still sold a bucketload by the end of its lifecycle.
That is not universally expected, I personally think it will be the same price as the 2080. Some say a little less some say a bit more, some say a lot more.
3090 I would expect to be very expensive, a new tier and name usually indicated price intentions. If they jack up the 3060. 3070, 3080 tiers Nividia will cop a ton of flack for that, sure there will be % of people that pony up but they've aren't stupid they will have the maxwell, pascal, Turing sales data and volumes weren't great prior to the 2070S.
I also still think Nvidia will hold back a 3080Ti in reserve to combat Big Navi, where Nvidia have to be careful is pricing the 3080 because if Big Navi beats it in raw perf (I think it will if there is an 80 CU part) and costs less that means they will be forced to cut price and they hate doing that, they've not had to do that in years.
Of course I maybe completely wrong and living in a dream world, might as well enjoy it while it lasts
Put me down for a fiver on
3090 £2000-2500
3080ti £1500-2000
3080 £1000
3070 £750
How many in a bucket load?
Indeed, though I can't find any figures on sales numbers to support either "poor sales" or "bucket loads". I can only find hits on sales revenue increase, which is to be expected considering the big increase price.
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Put me down for a fiver on
3090 £2000-2500
3080ti £1500-2000
3080 £1000
3070 £750
Probably not too far out with that.
They won't be getting my money though.