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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

It is an age thing. Anyone who is around 40 now lived through that period of huge development - and now youre looking back with nostalgia. The graphics were crap compared to what we have now.
You don't say. Graphics have improved in 30 years? nooooo....

Thats not the point being made. the point was the leaps back then were FAR greater than they are now from gen to gen. We are in the GPU equivilent of the iphone now. Every increasing prices for ever weaker returns. Ray tracing should have been the next game changer. but it's not. its a damp squib.
 
If the prices are as expected, I'm out for this round. People can panic buy as many as they want for all I care. Just bear in mind you are just validating nvidia's price gouging and helping to turn this into a market for just the elite few who are prepared to pay £1k+ for a video card.

they don't care dude, let em get on with it. I hear Zalem is a nice place this time of year.
 
Youre both looking at it with rose tinted glasses. Predominately due to age.

I started out back in the 286 and Windows 3.1 era up till now and I'd much rather be that same age now, experiencing all the advances in VR etc that my eldest son is now.

As for affordable, it was anything but affordable. PCs in general were horrendously expensive through the 80s and 90s and you needed to upgrade on a yearly basis just to keep up.

It's not simply rose-tinted glasses... if you do not know the many seminal games that were released during that time on PC's and consoles, games that were either created by or an inspiration to many of the greatest developers within the industry, then you do not know your gaming history, end of story, and nothing more needs to be said.

PS: Who said anything about affordable? I certainly didn't. :confused: It was a time when progression was so fast and so jarring that upgrades were far more regular and impactful and literally made the difference between playable and not playable.
 
You don't say. Graphics have improved in 30 years? nooooo....

Thats not the point being made. the point was the leaps back then were FAR greater than they are now from gen to gen. We are in the GPU equivilent of the iphone now. Every increasing prices for ever weaker returns. Ray tracing should have been the next game changer. but it's not. its a damp squib.

and yet games these days, on the whole, are far better than the they were back then. :p
 
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As we finally head into the announcement day, let's run through the top ten posters of this abortion of a thread.

The Top 10 posters of the thread are! *drumroll*

1st Place: @TNA with 762 posts
2nd Place: @Grim5 with 404 posts
3rd Place: @Richdog with 334 posts


Runners up:

4th - BigBANGtheory: 299
5th - JediFragger: 293
6th - CAT-THE-FIFTH: 278
7th - FoxEye: 237
8th - opethdisciple: 235
9th - Th0nt: 231
10th - Twinz: 231

Congratulations!


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If the prices are as expected, I'm out for this round. People can panic buy as many as they want for all I care. Just bear in mind you are just validating nvidia's price gouging and helping to turn this into a market for just the elite few who are prepared to pay £1k+ for a video card.

If this continues, the pc will no longer be a viable platform as there just won't be enough games sales to be worth the cost of developing. I can see a lot of people jumping ship to the new consoles over the next couple of years.

+1
 
You don't say. Graphics have improved in 30 years? nooooo....

Thats not the point being made. the point was the leaps back then were FAR greater than they are now from gen to gen. We are in the GPU equivilent of the iphone now. Every increasing prices for ever weaker returns. Ray tracing should have been the next game changer. but it's not. its a damp squib.

I know the tech leapt forward, I was there. Im just saying your fondness for it is based on nostalgia hence my comment - we all feel that way. Richdog revised his post to say exactly that - "when he was bright eyed and impressionable".

Its an age thing.
 
Consoles dont directly relate though, they dont have dedicated VRAM, PS5 with 16GB RAM, 3-4 GB of that reserved for the OS, does the game then use some of that RAM? then whats left over probably about 8GB-10GB tops for "VRAM".

10GB will be ample for the majority of people. For those who wish to spend 8 hours flying over the Atlantic they may need more, possibly.

Yep I already kinda did this back of the napkin calculation showing that at best you'd probably have 8Gb of the shared RAM available for vRAM purposes. And that the GPUs in the next gen consoles are on par with PC parts which have 8Gb of vRAM. There has been a really strong backlash that 10gb wont be enough but I just don't see that being true, it's mostly scare mongering. The games like FS2020 when pushed to use vRAM in excess of 10Gb are unplayable due to low FPS. Im not sure how many people here are going to skip on a 3080 because it's "only 10gb", but so far that looks like an unjustified position. The vast majority of even the top end games today, if you look at something like the top 20 most popular new games are using in the region of 5-6Gb in 4k.
 
and yet games these days, on the whole, are far better than the they were back then. :p
In all technical regards yes of course... however in terms of originality, story and narrative then often not. Modern pressures of development such as strict timelines and big budgets, mixed with epic corporate sharking and a distinct lack of ethics from big publishers have taken it's toll on the industry.

Just watch The Jimquisition if you want a more realistic and unsanitized reporting and reflection of the current state of the gaming industry. It's sometimes a tough watch. https://www.youtube.com/user/JimSterling
 
I remember playing quake all the years ago on my gf2 mx lol and it was the amazing time for me on pc then crysis came along and tonme it could t get any better /
 
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As we finally head into the announcement day, let's run through the top ten posters of this abortion of a thread.

The Top 10 posters of the thread are! *drumroll*

1st Place: @TNA with 762 posts
2nd Place: @Grim5 with 404 posts
3rd Place: @Richdog with 334 posts


Runners up:

4th - BigBANGtheory: 299
5th - JediFragger: 293
6th - CAT-THE-FIFTH: 278
7th - FoxEye: 237
8th - opethdisciple: 235
9th - Th0nt: 231
10th - Twinz: 231

Congratulations!


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I have to admit i am chuckling at the people expressing anger at Nvidia potentially hiking prices again, some of them current 2xxx owners, with long *proud* history of purchasing high end Nvidia cards, this my friends is your chickens coming home to roost. Like Thanos, it was inevitable lol, keep validating Nvidias practices and eventually even you will be priced out of your toys..

Time to blame AMD again haha..

Early adopters are going to get bent over again as we all know Nvidia will undoubtedly release better versions in a few months, then there will be plenty of buyers remorse comments on here again... The circle continues and you only have yourselves to blame lol.

And you can bet your behind that these will be gouged as far as possible due to *Covid related supply issues*, i love an Nvidia release for these exact things, the angst in threads here is hilarious reading.

The ones i have a slight bit of sympathy for are the 2080ti owners who are potentially going to get some more unlubed love from Nvidia when they try to sell their overpriced Turing card against a tide of lower priced superior Ampere products.. That i guess is the cost for bleeding edge
 
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