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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Jacky60 said:
+1 I have to agree it seems bizarre to jump now when you've waited so long especially when you have full knowledge AMD is going to launch a competitor within weeks. There's never been a better time to keep your nerve and wait a month or two when buying a new GPU yet so many knowledgeable people are seemingly committed to buying Nvidia or a 3080 without even seeing what AMD will offer.
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Yes but the drivers for AMD cards are the sticking point for me... AMD need to be more consistent with their drivers.
 
I just hope this means the RTX3050/RTX3060/RX6600XT turn out quite decent. Its time the mainstream got some of the love!

I said I wish we would get GTX1080TI level performance(or a bit better) under £300,so I hope that is still on track.
 
The problem with waiting for AMD is that they're going for the value play again. Which means definitely lower performance for ray tracing, DLSS or equivalent will be missing or strictly inferior (let's not forget DLSS 1.0 itself was a disaster) - no tensor cores, the others in the software stack are also going to be worse/missing (RTX Voice, CUDA, etc). Plus some less covered but usual omissions like how crap their video decoding is (important for AVR + PC, or HTPC users).

I just don't see them simply being cheaper and maybe having more vram as rivalling all those advantages. Hope they prove me wrong, they have 2 weeks to start leaking stuff.
 
JediFragger said:
Imo nVidia is a huge monster, AMD doing what they can against them. I'm really looking forward to seeing what RDNA2 offers!!! :)
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It better be good as i don't want to lose Freesync at 4k and Nvidia don't support my monitor. This launch has me thinking it's going to be decent as it's a pretty strong launch from NV especially comparing to Turing. The only real faults i can pick is the high power usage and slightly to low on the vram amounts. The man with the leather Jacket put on a decent show.
 
Gerard said:
Considering they've said sweet fa about rdna 2 where are you getting this from?
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Their RT implementation in RDNA 2 is a hybrid approach (official info - XSX presentation), so that way they keep a lot of rasterisation grunt & save costs. Plus we know their dies are going to be around 525 sq mm. And there's strong rumours it's going to be GDDR6.

There's no way to reconcile that as anything other than a value play, but ofc nothing's real until it is.
 
TheRealDeal said:
It better be good as i don't want to lose Freesync at 4k and Nvidia don't support my monitor. This launch has me thinking it's going to be decent as it's a pretty strong launch from NV especially comparing to Turing. The only real faults i can pick is the high power usage and slightly to low on the vram amounts. The man with the leather Jacket put on a decent show.
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He is a very good speaker, yeah the benches and few weeks will map out if the cards are as good as the hype suggests.
 
Phixsator said:
And you are basing that comment on personal experience?
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From what I have read there are mostly people that 'read about it' so that would be a NO! Especially ones that own nvidia cards that post in AMD threads then disclose they have bought nvidia for past three gens..
 
Poneros said:
Their RT implementation in RDNA 2 is a hybrid approach (official info - XSX presentation), so that way they keep a lot of rasterisation grunt & save costs. Plus we know their dies are going to be around 525 sq mm. And there's strong rumours it's going to be GDDR6.

There's no way to reconcile that as anything other than a value play, but ofc nothing's real until it is.
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It's about effiency and throughput. People need to appreciate its why SMT is a thing - its to make sure you maximise utilisation of the CPU core by replicating some of the front end. In RDNA2 Texturing and RT operations are happening on the same pipeline,but,both of those operations are happening at different stages of the pipeline. So what AMD is doing is making sure you have as much pipeline utilisation as possible. This fits in with the DXR1.1 specification which MS recently released(inline RT),which makes sense as that will be running on the XBox Series X.

Also looking at die area is not really useful this generation. Samsung 8NM is a derivative of their 10NM process node. TSMC 7NM is superior in density and power characteristics. AMD might not be as behind in transistor count as we think. Remember the Radeon 7 and RX5700XT were early generation 7NM products,so it wouldn't surprise me if RDNA2 ups density even more. Its quite clear the XBox Series X 56CU GPU seems relatively densely packed(those 56CUs taken up under 200MM2 of the SOC IIRC) and it still runs at a constant 1.8GHZ or thereabouts!
 
justwondering said:
Yes but the drivers for AMD cards are the sticking point for me... AMD need to be more consistent with their drivers.
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What driver issues have you had recently with AMD? I just ask because everyone talks about AMD driver issues, so I assume they must have issues rather regularly?
 
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